On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 13:17 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote: > 2008/5/19 Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> this list and Linux's survival is not dependent on MS > >> bashing. > > > > Just a quick clarifications. > > > > I do not think I have engaged in MS bashing so far (except for the one > > line don/goon imagery.) > > > >> Please take this discussion to some relevant > >> list. > > > > Sure, if sufficient number of members are of this opinion. > > First Every one is entitled to opinion of OT or otherwise. > > Second I am finding this highly interesting galvinization of community > to wards a common and long suffered issue of getting treated like a > second class citizen in buying of hardware. The latest greatest > configuration is only available with latest MS product. (Even Vista is > being forced down the gullet of people wanting XP). And only low specs > ones for others. Why should I not aspire to have latest greatest > hardware? > > Third Yes we went and brought it with our eyes open but no where the > manufacturer said that the EULA is contingent on my (buyers) > acceptance in the adverts. If there was no EULA being forced down on > me I would have but lived with it. BUT here I am being asked to accept > EULA and I am refusing. It is important distinction. The vendors (and > their lawyers) are being very choosy and ensnaring(?) in the step by > step approach where the customer is getting confused on who is > responsible for what. > > The basic contract law applied the dictum "let the buyer be aware" but > this is not valid in case of modern society where consumer protection > is part and parcel of protecting the small guy from monopolies > (including government)
http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/19/0154224&from=rss French Judge Orders Refund For Pre-Installed XP Racketiciel writes "A French user asked for a refund after buying a ASUS computer that came with Windows XP and other software pre-installed. ASUS tried to apply a procedure which cost more money to the consumer that they will give back ... The court ruled in favor of the user, who received back 130 Euro (~200 $) for the software. Here is the ruling (PDF, French). In France, this is the fourth victory for refund seekers during the last two years, and many people are now filing for refunds (in French). Two French associations (AFUL and April) published a press release on this victory the same day a important hearing happened." The English-language press release linked above gives a pretty good idea of what happened here, for those unsuited to wading through French. --- With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 IIPL: B-220/2, 2nd Fl., Savitri Nagar, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi 110017, India Phone : +91-11-26014670, 71, 72. Fax : +91-11-26014672 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Affordable Business Desktop @ Just Rs. 500/- : http://kalculate.com/piracy.php http://www.openlx.com/openlx.html - FOSS award 2008 winner Linux from India http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/24867/news.htm http://openlx.com/features.html - OpenLX Linux features You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/