On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On 17-Jun-08, at 9:51 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
> > for peddling that item, whatever it is.  And if the latest
> > (proprietary) product that Mr Singh mentioned turns out to be a Sun
> > product, I'll request the list admin to moderate his postings until
> > he (Angad) clearly understands that this is not a medium for
> > marketing proprietary crap from anyone, be it Sun, IBM, RH or MS.
>
> I have been searching the thread, and his other posts, and I cant
> find where he has recommended proprietary crap - could you give the
> reference please. Further I do not think threatening to instruct the

I was referring to the LiveWire or whatever produict that Angad had 
mentioned in an earlier mail.  I presume it's proprietary, otherwise 
you wouldn't need to be rich to obtain it.

> list admin to moderate postings is good etiquette when you are
> involved in the flame war. Also please point out to where it is
> mentioned that this is a moderated list. After very bitter
> experiences with moderated lists, I swore never to join another - if
> this is one, I personally would leave.

Before we get into another hyperbolic war which has nothing to do with 
the topic at hand, let me clarify the context of this discussion and 
request you to stay within that:

1. I never threatened to ``instruct'' the list admin to moderate anyone.  
I said I'd request him, and I stand by that -- if I see anyone peddling 
proprietary stuff here I will definitely ask the admin to moderate that 
person, as I'm sure many others will too.

2. Nowhere was it said or implied that this was a moderated list.  It's 
not.  It never will be, if I have any say in the matter at all.

For the benefit of those like you who don't understand the Internet and 
mailing lists: you can have an unmoderated list and still place one 
specific person on moderation for violation of the list etiquette.  
That does NOT make the whole list moderated.

> > I personally have no issues with discussion on any FOSS product or
> > activity on this list, but it's up to the list managers and ILUGD
> > office-bearers to define the scope within which we operate here :)
>
> last time we were told that ILUGD office-bearers were office bearers
> for ILUGD and not for this list. Or rather this list and ilugd are
> two separate entities. Has this changed?

Not as far as I know, since this list has no office bearers at all.  
Like, we don't have an ``ILUGD Mailing List Society'' (probably an 
oversight which should be rectified -- quick guys, register a society 
for the list!)

Anyhow, until we have a registered society for the mailing list, we just 
have list administrators, which is what I said above.  Those 
administrators may or may not be office-bearers of the ILUGD society, 
it's not important as long as they do their job efficiently and 
unobtrusively.

Regards,

-- Raju
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