On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Narendra, > > Thanks a lot for long list of complains. :) Keep them coming. let me > respond to your points in-line. > These are much like complains,, but I am working on them also. > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM, narendra sisodiya > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > @Dinesh , Better to ask, what are the problems in FOSS adaptations. > > > > Adaptation of Linux is not fast and not up to the expectations. My > > observations are not good.... > > I do understand. However, to accelerate the adaption you to create > positive talking points which is basically marketing jargon for > packaging the sh** in nice wrapper. :) > > Since, I can only reach those students who already has adapted > GNU/Linux and are one list, I thought it best ask them what they like. > > > 1) Linux and FOSS are not much popular.. > > ### I will love to put up posters at Nehru Place, provided somebody > > volunteer for design. > > Here is the collateral you need. This I guess is under suitable CC > license so you should be able to adapt as per your need > > http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Linux_Brochure_Quick_Guide > > http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Linux_Brochure > > http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Linux_Brochure_Alternate > > http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Desktop_Linux_Article > > and there are more documents there! > I will try to paste at Nehru Place. > > > ### Documentary movies on TV or radios show can help to encourage Linux > > users. > > This is not very difficult to generate. You need a low/medium end > Video Cam and there are number FOSS based events to shoot your content > from. So are you capturing any event? We have tried our efforts to capture workshop but it was unsucessful always. That is why i am working on Project Eduvid You can put this audio/video on > giss.tv or even youtube is you agree to their T&C. :) > > > ### Why not our articles in paper or media ? I do not have any media > > contacts !! > > I do see articles in media. In fact I show few some days back and > posted the links on ILUG-Bom list. > > We need more.. > > > ### When you talk about users.. Always keep in mind.. they want comfort > and > > not knowledge . Most of students are users too. > > So can you be specific about users "discomforts". Then only we can > make some thing that addresses that "discomforts" > > > ### Workshops for teacher/college prof will be very useful. > > Nice suggestion. That could be one of the target audiance. > We have made one sucessful workshop in past and will do many such. looking for good collaborations. > > > ### There is a bootable Live Linux Gamer DVD, distributing them will make > > some more awareness. > > > > 2) Slow Internet. > > ## Its almost impossible to use/update/configure Linux without Internet. > > This is a major hurdle in foss adaptation. > > Have you used the Other OS with Automatic Update ON? That will suck > out the life of best of your internet connection. :) Today most > softwares and updates are distributed on-line. Any form of removable > media is only used for initial installation of OS and some softwares. > My main and hidden concern was with "one click install without internet connectivity for easy sharing of software bundles". Well, Soon I will try to come up with such spins,, I hope that will reach to many new users. > > > ## Putting rpm into bundle (one of the previous mail to make 'bad Linux" > for > > users who do not have Internet) can solve this problems > > That was discuss on least and majority of Gurus suggested that it does > not look very feasible. However, how about you starting some project > around that? Start small line you want to distribute development tools > on CD. Constructing such CD should not be way too difficult if you > know how major packaging systems work. > I told , I am trying,, > > > 3) Students > > ### Only so called Techie students from CS use Linux. Student life is > very > > fast. They are need to do many task in time bound competing environment. > > Extra effort to learn Linux and then use linux is major hurdle for Linux > and > > foss adaptation. a small fraction of students use Linux. > > *You* use GNU/Linux / FOSS when you don;t have time :) It simply doubles > or triples your productivity in any area. :) > I know this, I live with Linux, We are talking for users or students and not mine. > > > ### companies which are working in foss domain, should call for project > > guidance for BE projects. By This way, students will start contributing > in > > foss projects. > > Good suggestion. On the other hand, how about colleges sponsoring FOSS > Projects? > We need a good approach among college professors. > > > ### There should be separate courses for FOSS in syllabus itself > > :) > > > btw. In my company, only developer use to work in Linux,(redhat older > > version). All other {except coder } use Windows. Still the communication > is > > on the *.doc* and *.xls* format which disappoint me very much. however > there > > is a LUG formation in company itself which will help in future for > adopting > > open standards. > > Well it's a pity that "normal" users are using windows. How about you > initiating adoption of OO.o on windows and first eliminate that .doc > and .xls? Should'nt be a big challenge? > I have already mailed a "Request to use Open File Formats" in general mailing lists. I cannot do more then this. I am just 3 month old guy in this company. > > > Thanks > > Narendra Sisodiya > > http://lug-iitd.org > > With regards, > -- > --Dinesh Shah :-) > Shah Micro System > +91-98213-11906 > Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ > Blog-2 <http://dineshah.wordpress.com/Blog-2>: > http://dineshah.blogspot.com/ > Alfred Hitchcock - "Television has brought back murder into the home > - where it belongs." > > _______________________________________________ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──────────────┐ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ http://www.lug-iitd.org └─new number ───[ +91-93121-66995 ]──────┘ _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
