From: Anne Judge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Feb 3, 2006, at 9:32 AM, chasm wrote:

> You're really cheating yourself, Anne.
>
> Go and have a look at the quicktime tours for iWork (both Keynote > and Pages) on Apple's page: http://www.apple.com/iwork/

I'm quite happy with Ragtime Solo for page layout, thank you

Nobody here -- least of all me -- suggested that you MUST go and have a look, or that you're a fool if you don't. You conveniently omitted the part of my post where I said that iWork may not be for you or meet your particularly needs. I merely suggested that before you DISMISS the program, it would be worth your time to at least UNDERSTAND WHAT IT ACTUALLY DOES. If you're confident you have no use for it, that's fine. No program (from Apple or anyone else) meets everyone's particular needs.

> Plus I don't
really have the time to go playing around with things I have no intention of ever buying.

Again, I never suggested that. I suggested that you take 30 seconds and read the web page that describes what the program does, or if you have three or four minutes to spare you can enjoy the QuickTime movies of the program in action. If you don't care/aren't interested, that's fine. All I ever intended to do was point out that you (and many others) have a misperception of what iWork (Pages + Keynote) is and what it can do. If you don't want to correct that, that's your business.

And it looks like, as with iLife, Apple will grab another $79 every single year from you?

This is not true either for iLife OR iWork. You're under NO obligation to update if you don't want to. But IF the new features appeal to you, then yes, it's $79 for each new version. Because I actually understand what the programs DO, I consider it one of the best software bargains available, and I think you would too if you'd take the time to understand it. But nobody here cares if you do or don't, it's your choice.

>  So it's not that cheap if you want to get the
improvements (and components??) as the features grow.

"Cheap" has two meanings. I think NOTHING of upgrading my Adobe Creative Suite every year or two (even though such updates cost hundreds of dollars) because I use that software to actually DO THINGS that MAKE MONEY. The upgrade fees are a trivial expense compared to what I earn using the software, and Adobe offers me great VALUE that I have no problem paying for.

Ragtime Solo is pretty decent and, happily, free for certain kinds of use. But really good-quality free software is about as common as honest politicians. When it's time to grow up and do really world-class, professional stuff, you reach for software that costs money. If you're just playing around with things, then Ragtime or Print Shop or Appleworks will probably suit your needs, and there's no need to spend the major bucks that programs like Photoshop require.

iLife (and iWork) are programs affordably priced so that consumers who aren't "professionals" can nonetheless produce results FAR superior to what Ragtime (or other, more complex programs) can do. This is not to "diss" Ragtime and the other options, it's to point out that sometimes you really want something ELEGANT and BEAUTIFUL, and that Apple makes that possible for what I (and most people) would view as a VERY modest fee.

If I go and spend money on software, it will be on something I actually feel a need for

I couldn't agree with this statement more. But I would point out that software like iPhoto (for example) often opens up ideas and possibilities that the consumer did not enter the program thinking of or planning to do as they learn to use it. The power of that program makes it possible for the consumer to attempt things and achieve results they never would have thought possible or had even considered before.

This is why it's usually a bad idea to dismiss programs out-of-hand without understanding them well enough to know how they MIGHT serve you.


Cheers
Chas

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