Again, read my last comment.  Take that scenario and tell me how you'd
deal with it fairly.  The people at mail-abuse.org have too much fun
jerking around with people.  Blackholing *ALL* traffic for MacroMedia
for a day, blackholing traffic for competitor ORBS.ORG.  Trying to force
people to abide by their NON-RFC standards "Or-else".

I'll state it again.  For a small company, Mail-abuse.org/orbs may be
fine, however you'll pay the price of losing some valid EMail,
GUARANTEED.

-Mark McDonald
Siteserver Account Executive

EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: 800.610.9856 Ext 231
Cell:  805.857.5614
Fax:   888.333.2710



-----Original Message-----
From: Sheldon Koehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] ORBS


> Who in their left brain would not appreciate the efforts of the anti
SPAM
> databases, except those doing business with spammers, or spamming
> themselves.

1. They are a spam friendly site.

2. They have no idea who ORBS (www.orbs.org) or MAPS
(www.mail-abuse.org) is
and what they really do for the internet community as a whole.

3. They were listed on one of the lists and took offense instead of
fixing
the problem.

4. They like all the trash flooding their mail servers.

While I am at it, here are a couple other sites on the subject:
http://combat.uxn.com/
http://www.spamhaus.org/
http://spamcop.net/


Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partner
Ten Forward Communications
360-457-9023
http://www.tenforward.com
E-Commerce that makes sense!
http://store.tenforward.com




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