Geeez. That's pretty low!  Have these guys at Ipswitch not figured out
that there are some experts on this list who can decipher e-mail
headers?  BTW - who here is using MS Exchange anyway that he was
comparing AV prices for?

-Don  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Harry Sack's brother?

Those following the Ipswitch AV saga last week learned of "Harry Sacks",
a 
Beavis and Butthead character, that posted some positive stuff stuff
about 
IMail like "Imail 6.06 worked great for us" and that IMail 7.04 "Seems
to 
be quite good" and trying coming up with some drawbacks about our
Declude 
software.  It turned out to be an Ipswitch employee.

Now, we've found out about another Ipswitch employee who feels more 
comfortable using a Hotmail account than an Ipswitch E-mail account.
It's 
doesn't seem to be our friend Harry Sacks, though; he always used 
216.104.149.198, this guy is coming from 216.104.149.237, another
Ipswitch 
IP address.  It looks like we've got another Ipswitch employee with a 
Hotmail account sticking up for Ipswitch (and referring to Ipswitch as 
"they", just like Harry Sacks).

I'm sure there must be a logical explanation that I'm overlooking...
                                                   -Scott


At 12:00 PM 11/20/2001, you wrote:
>X-Originating-IP: [216.104.149.237]
>From: "Jimbo Trillium" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Defend Declude! (was: Virus Protection)
>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:00:31 -0800
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 17:00:31.0767 (UTC) 
>FILETIME=[DD052A70:01C171E4]
>Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [156.21.1.21]
>X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude
(www.declude.com)
>X-NRecips: 1
>X-Reverse-IP: list.ipswitch.com.
>X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> From what I see here their prices are substantially less than their 
> competitors.  Look what some of there competitors are charging for
just 
> the Interface (Not including the cost of the actual mail server).
>
>Trend ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange - 100 User.
>$2,100.00
>
>NAV Corp. NAV for MS Exchange - 100 User.
>$3,821.00
>
>Before complaining that prices are outrageous please do some homework.
>
>
>my $.03 worth.
>
>
>-JT
>
>>From: Sanford Whiteman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: Defend Declude!  (was: Virus Protection)
>>Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:38:26 -0500
>>
>>For  those  of you who didn't see it, here's a release Sheldon Koehler
>>got from Ipswitch recently:
>>
>> > Dear Imail Customer-
>> >
>> > Ipswitch is pleased to announce that it has partnered with Symantec
(the
>> > world's leading provider of anti-virus software) to develop Imail
>> > Anti-Virus.
>> >
>> > Highlights:
>> >
>> > Provides High-Performance, Scalable virus scanning for your email
>> > Fully Integrated into Imail Server -Ease-Of Use
>> > Scans both Incoming & Outgoing Messages
>> > Detects Malicious Viruses, Worms, and Trojan Horses in all major
file 
>> types
>> > including Mobile code and Compressed File Formats.
>> >
>> > Imail Anti-Virus is a powerful solution for detecting and
eliminating
>> > viruses in email.  Imail Anti-Virus was developed to work only with
Imail
>> > Server and is supported by Ipswitch.
>> >
>> > If you currently have an Active Service Agreement you can purchase
an
>> > Anti-Virus Subscription upgrade at the following pricing:
>> >
>> > Imail Unlimited Anti-Virus Subscription from Active Service
Agreement -
>> > $5,395.00
>> >
>> > Imail 1,000 Anti-Virus Subscription from Active Service Agreement -
>> > $2,695.50
>> >
>> > Imail 250 Anti-Virus Subscription from Active Service Agreement -
$895.50
>> >
>> > If you DO NOT currently have an Active Service Agreement you can
purchase
>> > the Anti-Virus Subscription at the following pricing:
>> >
>> > Imail Unlimited Anti-Virus Subscription - $6,066.00
>> >
>> > Imail 1,000 Anti-Virus Subscription - $3,096.00
>> >
>> > Imail 250 Anti-Virus Subscription - $1,206.00
>> >
>> > Imail Anti-Virus will be available for Sale beginning November 27.
>>Intelek
>> > Technologies will be taking orders before then but will not process
until
>> > the 27th.  Act fast and be one of the first to own.
>> >
>> > SPECIAL OFFER!  If you order before November 30, 2001 - Intelek 
>> Technologies
>> > along with the already discounted pricing above will give you
another 5%
>> > off.  This would be a total of 15% of retail price!
>> >
>> > I would love to be able to help with any needs you may have.  Are
you
>> > currently working with a reseller or do you mainly purchase
directly 
>> through
>> > Ipswitch?
>> >
>> > I look forward to speaking with you soon Sheldon!
>>
>>I think we should all stand up for Scott in his fight against this new
>>gorilla. It's not that I resent Ipswitch for forging partnerships (God
>>knows,  they  may need them to stay afloat), but what they're going to
>>do  is  make  virus protection appear inaccessible to budget-conscious
>>companies--because  of  Symantec's stature and marketing prowess, many
>>may  think  it's  Imail  Anti-Virus or nothing, and choose nothing. So
>>let's  all  who  are pleased with Declude, and especially its support,
>>make  an  extra  effort to head off people at the pass who are leaning
>>toward this new package.
>>
>>I  could  understand if they were the only presence in this market and
>>were  taking advantage of that to gauge customers (not ethical, but at
>>least  straightforward)...but  here  it seems like the sort of complex
>>price-and-presence warfare that Microsoft lives on.
>>
>>Just my $.000002 lakh,
>>
>>Sandy
>>
>>___| Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
>>___| Broadleaf Systems + Support, Inc.
>>___| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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