I think what Sandy and Sheldon and others, including myself, are saying
is that it is a problem waiting to happen. Why not eliminate the problem
before it happens. Wouldn't it be better to eliminate a potential
problem before it occurs, especially since so many people have expressed
a concern about it? I have not seen any one post that a problem has
already occurred.

Like I stated in my earlier post, it is interesting that Ipswitch is not
giving us a reason for defending its position on this issue. Rather,
they keep asking for what harm is it doing?

We know and understand that Ipswitch can not respond to every request
for an update, tweak or enhancement, but this issue has been going
around for some time with many different people interested in it since I
first joined this list during the summer of last year.

John Tolmachoff 
IT Manager, Network Engineer
211 E. Imperial Hwy., Suite 106
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Korsak
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] IMail's "X1" RFC violation

Since there have been a couple of messages I'm rolling all the answers
into
one message.  I hope it works, it is easier than writing a bunch of
responses.

I did not say Ipswitch would not change the response.  I do know that in
the
past we have put options in the product that allow our customers to
violate
RFC's if they want (refuse NULL sender for example).  We could talk
about
whether the X1 does or does not violate the RFC but I would rather talk
about the problem and find a solution.  My goal is not to ignore the
question but to address the problem in the most efficient manner.

Ipswitch receives many requests for updates, tweaks, enhancements.  What
will help me assess the impact is to know what problem is caused by
IMail
Server returning X1 as the first two characters and the frequency.  If
this
was causing 20% of all message to be rejected then we have a very
serious
problem, regardless of what the RFC says.

Based on Sheldon's response below I take that the concern is that some
servers will take this as a violation and drop the connection or reject
the
message.  So, now we are left with each party believing they are
correctly
interpreting the RFC, which is generally not very useful to you, our
users.
How often does the problem happen?  What servers are responsible for the
behavior?

John Korsak
Product Marketing Manager, IMail Server

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sheldon Koehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] IMail's "X1" RFC violation

> John,
>
> R. Scott Perry's message at the beginning of this thread explained
exactly
> what paragraph Imail is in violation of.
>
> It was not a very big deal a few years ago, but with the ever
increasing
> problem of Spam, more and more servers are starting to block servers
that
> are in violation of just about anything. Proper compatibility and
following
> standards is going to be very important to all of use in the near
future.
>
> Thanks for listening!
>
> Sheldon
>
>
> Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partner        http://www.tenforward.com
> Ten Forward Communications            360-457-9023
> Nationwide access with neighborhood support!
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
> to pause and reflect." Mark Twain


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