This is all correct.  smtp04 is definitely unavailable and has been
for some time.  But IMail still didn't try imail.lms.kent.edu first as
it should have.  That is my point.

Also, these DNS servers are populated from a central database and do
not use standard zone transfer methods.  This is why the warnings show
up...but they do not indicate any problems.

--Todd.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Leske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail not using MX record preference
correctly? (another example)


> Primary name server:     dhcp.net.kent.edu.
> Primary mail server:     imail.lms.kent.edu.
> Number of records:       N/A
>
> Errors
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> o The secondary mail server "smtp04.net.kent.edu." does not respond
>     The mail server "smtp04.net.kent.edu.", which is a secondary
mail
>     server for "lms.kent.edu.", does not seem to be working.
>
>
> Warnings
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> o The name server "dhcp.net.kent.edu." does not permit zone
transfers
>     The name server "dhcp.net.kent.edu." has been configured to
>     reject unauthorized zone transfers and the application will not
be
>     able to use data from this server while analyzing the zone.
>
> o The name server "ns.net.kent.edu." does not permit zone transfers
>     The name server "ns.net.kent.edu." has been configured to reject
>     unauthorized zone transfers and the application will not be able
>     to use data from this server while analyzing the zone.
>
> o Zone transfer from authoritative servers not possible
>     It was not possible to perform a zone transfer from any of the
>     authoritative name servers for the zone.  This will limit the
>     range of tests performed for the zone.
>
> ~Rick
>
> Rick Leske
> IT Manager
> NSE
> FamHost
> 800-658-1676
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:44 PM - MGMT.TV
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail not using MX record preference
> correctly? (another example)
>
>
> I'm seeing the same thing again.  Although none of the mail servers
are
> down, I can clearly see that the one that IMail is choosing is NOT
the one
> with the lowest priority.  I may be missing something, but this
seems to be
> very similar to what Chris is experiencing.  Sending and receiving
servers
> are both IMail 7.10 and 7.11 respectively.  I am an administrator on
both
> machines.
>
> First off, IMail SMTP is configured to use only one DNS server
> (216.144.25.2).  From that server, I did the following lookup on the
target
> domain (lms.kent.edu):
>
> C:\>nslookup
> Default Server:  ns1.gambit.net
> Address:  216.144.25.2
>
> > server 216.144.25.2
> Default Server:  ns1.gambit.net
> Address:  216.144.25.2
>
> > set type=mx
> > lms.kent.edu
> Server:  ns1.gambit.net
> Address:  216.144.25.2
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> lms.kent.edu    MX preference = 15, mail exchanger =
smtp04.net.kent.edu
> lms.kent.edu    MX preference = 20, mail exchanger =
smtp04.net.kent.edu
> lms.kent.edu    MX preference = 5, mail exchanger =
imail.lms.kent.edu
> lms.kent.edu    MX preference = 10, mail exchanger =
smtp05.net.kent.edu
>
> smtp04.net.kent.edu     internet address = 131.123.250.220
> smtp04.net.kent.edu     internet address = 131.123.250.220
> imail.lms.kent.edu      internet address = 131.123.20.12
> smtp05.net.kent.edu     internet address = 131.123.250.221
> >
>
>
>
> OK...easy to see that the MX records are coming back in the wrong
order.
> Lowest priority is imail.lms.kent.edu (preference 5).  But by the
> "super-debugged" log entries below, it seems IMail is delivering to
> smtp05.net.kent.edu which is the second one in priority order (but
last in
> order they are returned?!):
>
>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00A9017E) [216.144.25.34] connect 131.123.20.67
port 2482
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00A9017E) [131.123.20.67] EHLO tryan
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00A9017E) [131.123.20.67] MAIL FROM:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00A9017E) [131.123.20.67] RCPT TO:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00A9017E) [131.123.20.67]
> D:\IMAIL\spool\Dd8d300a9017e217a.SMD 649
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [x] Description: WinSock 2.0
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [x] official name shemp.gambit.net
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) processing
D:\IMAIL\spool\Qd8d300a9017e217a.SMD
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) recip is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [x] looking up lms.kent.edu in HOSTS and
MX
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [x] looking up lms.kent.edu in HOSTS and
MX
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) closed
D:\IMAIL\spool\_d8d300a9017e217a.~MD - 1
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 1
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [x] doing direct send lms.kent.edu
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) Trying lms.kent.edu (0)
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [x] delivery to host lms.kent.edu
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [x] using source IP for gambit.net
> [216.144.25.34]
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) Connect lms.kent.edu
[131.123.250.221:25] (1)
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 220 smtp05.net.kent.edu ESMTP Sendmail
> 8.11.2/8.11.2; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:15:34 -0400
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) >EHLO gambit.net
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-smtp05.net.kent.edu Hello gambit.net
> [216.144.25.34], pleased to meet you
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-8BITMIME
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-SIZE 10000000
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-DSN
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-ONEX
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-ETRN
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250-XUSR
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250 HELP
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) >MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250 2.1.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender ok
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250 2.1.5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
Recipient ok
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) >DATA
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line
by itself
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) >.
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 250 2.0.0 g6UIFZj30267 Message accepted
for
> delivery
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) rdeliver lms.kent.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(1)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 649
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) >QUIT
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) 221 2.0.0 smtp05.net.kent.edu closing
connection
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) [u] closing socket (u)
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(00000059) finished
D:\IMAIL\spool\Qd8d300a9017e217a.SMD
> status=1
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) [x] Description: WinSock 2.0
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) [x] official name shemp.gambit.net
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) processing
D:\IMAIL\spool\Qd8d400aa017e2595.SMD
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) sender
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) recip is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) local user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) closed
D:\IMAIL\spool\_d8d400aa017e2595.~MD - 1
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) [x] gambit.net ldelivery pnsmi (main)
from
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) ldeliver gambit.net pnsmi-main (1)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 40763
> 07:30 14:20 SMTP-(0000005A) finished
D:\IMAIL\spool\Qd8d400aa017e2595.SMD
> status=1
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00AB017E) [216.144.25.34] connect 205.150.6.132
port 2489
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00AB017E) [205.150.6.132] HELO
> uuout14smtp12.uu.flonetwork.com
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00AB017E) [205.150.6.132] MAIL
> FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00AB017E) [205.150.6.132] RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07:30 14:20 SMTPD(00AB017E) [205.150.6.132]
> D:\IMAIL\spool\Dd8db00ab017e3fa3.SMD 12166
>
>
>
> And since the message got through, I looked at the headers and
verified that
> it went through smtp05.net.kent.edu first:
>
> Received: from smtp05.net.kent.edu [131.123.250.221] by lms.kent.edu
with
> ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-7.11) id A761FCF00A6; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:13:53 -0400
> Received: from gambit.net (gambit.net [216.144.25.34])
>  by smtp05.net.kent.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g6UIFZj30267
>  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:15:35 -0400
> Received: from tryan [131.123.20.67] by gambit.net with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-7.10) id A8D3A9017E; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:20:03 -0400
> Message-ID: <011401c237f5$18c20980$43147b83@tryan>
> Reply-To: "Todd Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Todd Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Todd \(LMS\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: IMail MX Test 7/30/2002 01
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:15:33 -0400
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>  charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
> X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [216.144.25.34]
> X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for junkmail. (Msg
> File:Dd7610fcf00a658fa.SMD, Weight:0, Failed:None)
> X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Status: U
> X-UIDL: 290373954
>
>
>
> Like I said, I could easily be missing something.  I'd be happy if
someone
> woule even point out my logic error to set my mind at ease.  But
please be
> gentle.
>
> --Todd.
>
>
>
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