I thought we all knew that Outlook is not the best IMAP client?

Still, maybe a 'filter routing rule' is kludgy.  Then there ought to be
something better.  

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Subject: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] IMail Rule for Attachment Size

No, forcing implementation of a filter routing rule IS the kludgy
workaround, and only necessary because Outlook must be the mail client.
Admins must understand that OL cannot be configured to implement the
features of IMAP4 in a seamless, integrated, user-friendly way.
(See MSKB Q287574).

In other words, the proper admin solution is to implement the
standards-based IMAP4 protocol--designed and developed SPECIFICALLY to
address his users precise needs. Implementing a filter rule kludge in this
case is like trying to use a hammer instead of someone simply handing you
the correct screwdriver.

Dev

Saturday, July 26, 2003, 4:01:31 PM, you wrote:

WL> That only partly solves the problem.  An email client being able to 
WL> configure this feature is not an appropriate admin tool to perform this
WL> simple task for groups of users.   

WL> Sure Outlook is not the best POP or IMAP client.  Both Outlook and 
WL> IMail suck for what RMilner wants to accomplish with POP.  Whenever 
WL> possible, I would deploy IMAP over POP as well.

WL> It's not an unreasonable feature request for an email server to handle.

WL> William


WL> On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 13:06, Sanford Whiteman wrote: 
>> > But  if  it  is handled at the email client side, then the damage 
>> > is already  done  -  as the email had to be retrieved off the 
>> > server at that point.
>> 
>> Wrong.  As  others  have pointed out, you're seeing the limitations 
>> of Outlook  more  than  those of IMail. Your objection to 
>> IMail--"written from  a  programmer's  point  of view and not an end 
>> user's"--would be better  assigned to Outlook (except you should
substitute "marketer's"
>> for "programmer's").
>> 
>> A smart mail client, such as The Bat!, can perform server-side 
>> pruning of  messages  without  taking  up  any  extra bandwidth. It 
>> features a "dispatch  mail on server" feature which solves your 
>> problem, pure and simple.  Other  mail clients can do the same, as 
>> well as automatically leaving  large  messages  on  the server, (and 
>> I actually believe that very  old  versions of OL did as well, IIRC). 
>> The POP3 verbs are there to  do  all  of  this;  if  Outlook  doesn't  
>> use them, it's not using standards-based  functions.  While  it would 
>> be nice if IMail had this ability, my finger stays pointed at MS.
>> 
>> -Sandy
>>


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