Ah, now we are getting somewhere. There are actually
two separate issues here.

1. You mentioned Outlook. THAT is the problem. Outlook
is completely INCOMPETENT and USER HOSTILE as an IMAP
client. Please don't blame imagined Imail "limitations"
in POP3 when the real issue is Microsoft's refusal to
support basic Internet Standards.

2. IMAP is a SUPERSET of POP3. Your users are already
using POP3 to retrieve mail. No huge hoops have to be
jumped to "force" users to use it. With most mail
clients, configuring IMAP usage is simply ticking 2
checkboxes. From the enduser point of view it is
completely transparent in the mailreader--it looks and
works just like POP3.

Here is my personal philosophy: At every company, there
are "Road Warriors" who are the ones that get stuck
with 19.2 dialups in some fleabag motel. I recommend
those laptop-wielding users always use IMAP4, even when
in the office. Client operation and access to all email
and attachments is completely seamless.

This does however require that these specific users to
dump Outlook as their mail client.

As an admin, you have a decision to make. How bad is
the issue of attachment size for your mobile users? If
it is serious, switch your Road Warriors to another
client that is IMAP friendly. I recommend TheBat! for
power users and Opera's M2 for ordinary non-techy
folks.

Non-mobile users can continue using Outlook.


Dev


Saturday, July 26, 2003, 10:37:43 AM, you wrote:

R> To use your words, "no need to reinvent the wheel" by forcing users to use
R> IMAP.

R> One of the biggest issues I have had for over 20 years with software code is
R> it written from a programmer's point of view and not an end users. It forces
R> the end user to convert to the software coder line of thinking which usually
R> isn't the best for real world.

R> As a simple example to change, I upgraded my parent's AOL from version 4 to
R> version 5 and you would have thought I committed murder. All they used the
R> computer  for was email with friends and now they could not figure out how
R> to retrieve email with the new interface.

R> Outlook is used in the office with a POP3. We, as administrators, imho,
R> should make the behind the scenes action as seemless as possible - not use
R> POP3 here and web browser or IMAP there etc.

R> That is all I was attempting to do - make it seamless. I guess I have always
R> known Imail's limitations from what I believe it needs, but something this
R> simple and obvious just amazes me its not available I guess.

R> I'll get off my soapbox now :)



R> -----Original Message-----
R> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dev
R> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:40 PM
R> To: RMilner
R> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail Rule for Attachment Size


R> No need to reinvent the wheel.

R> Can I suggest that your mobile users simply use IMAP
R> instead of POP3 to access email while traveling?

R> One of the many great features of IMAP is being able to
R> see headers without having to dl the entire message
R> while on the road.

R> Dev


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