I'm not anxious to use whitelisting -- it always stuck me as a double-edged
sword.  Right now, I think that we've narrowed it down to a mis-typed
address that ended up looking like spam.  There's no way to guard against
that.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Catuogno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] vanishing message


> I didn't catch what version of Imail you are running, but I *think* that
the
> Whitelist Auth in 8+ might be able to help you in this case.
>
> Marc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of IMail Admin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 01:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] vanishing message
>
>
> Thanks Scott, my wisdom grows by the second, along with more grey hairs.
A
> couple more questions: I expected Declude to filter incoming spam, but not
> outgoing email.  We have a small client list and I'm not worried about any
> of them spamming.  I do understand about relaying, but I thought we had
that
> covered with the IMail no-relay option.  So do we really need to filter
> email going out from our clients?  If not, how do we stop it?
>
> Also, I don't see the percent sign in the to-addresses.  Here's how it
shows
> up in the IMail log:
>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] MAIL FROM:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO: <Mike krueger
> (E-mail)>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128] RCPT TO: <:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 12:09 18:08 SMTPD(10D50148) [206.29.173.128]
> D:\IMAIL\spool\D800d10d501486618.SMD 2851
>
> The address to Mike krueger doesn't look like it will work, but I still
> don't see the percent.  I found the message being held and pulled the
> header, but that doesn't help much either.  If you're wondering how come
the
> rcpt to lines look funny (like Mike krueger), it's because these people
were
> using Exchange/Outlook before switching to IMail/Outlook Express.  Here is
> the mail header:
>
> Received: from MIKE2 [206.29.173.128] by ipswheat.com with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-7.15) id A00D10D50148; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:08:13 -0800
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Mike at MK Commodities" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Alberts \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Clark & Mary Jean Limb \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Coery & Julie Giles \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Dave & Theresa Reed \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Dave Reed \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "David & Kim Dahlquist \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Jody & Wendy Draney \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Joey Joy \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "John & Miriam Rasmussen \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "John Rasmussen \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Kathy Krueger \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Marshalls \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  <Mike krueger (E-mail)>,
>  "Niel Marshall \(E-mail\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  <:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: AAU BBall
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:08:24 -0800
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>  boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C3BE7F.703AC690"
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
> X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.29.173.128
> with no reverse DNS entry.
> X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 14 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
> X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [206.29.173.128]
> X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
> spam.
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ******************************************************
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] vanishing message
>
>
> >
> > >You had the right idea, but I need more explanation.  We use Declude,
of
> > >course, for both AV and Spam.  I found the relevant log info in the
spam
> > >log, but I don't quite understand how this worked out.  I've included
the
> > >log info below.
> >
> > >12/09/2003 18:08:18 Q800d10d501486618 Msg failed PERCENT ().
Action=HOLD.
> >
> > This means that the E-mail failed the PERCENT test, and it was
quarantined
> > (the HOLD action).
> >
> > >This was outgoing mail from one of our clients (virtual IMail domain);
> how
> > >did it get filtered?  And why was it filtered?
> >
> > It got blocked because it failed the PERCENT test, which is used to get
> > around a situation where mail can be relayed through a backup
mailserver.
> >
> > >This was just a meeting announcement for a dozen or so people, so what
> > >happened?
> >
> > Most likely, the problem is that an invalid address was used, such as
> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  It's technically legal, but very
> > outdated, and causes huge problems (IE spammers can relay).
> >
> >                                                     -Scott
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