For the extra they are charging they can afford to lose lots of current
clients. What they don't seem to understand is that Microsoft came out with
a new licensing agreement (SPLA) for Service Providers, where it's way more
affordable to run the real Exchange Server 2003, which offers far more than
just an Outlook compatible Imail ICS Server with a lot less hassles is my
guess. Also under the new Microsoft Certified Partner program you can get
unlimited support 24 X 7 for free. This Certified Partner Program is now way
easier to belong to. No more having a critical problem and waiting for
Ipswitch to call you back sometime the next day while you clients seem to
never sleep :)

I've been a somewhat happy Ipswitch client for a lot of years, but I think I
will be moving to the real thing MS Exchange Server at the end of my newly
purchased contract that is about a month old now. This should give me a lot
of time to move into it slowly and carefully. Perhaps I will also examine
Merak and some of the other offerings. Once a trust is broken by greed it's
hard for me to ever trust that entity again. 

IPswitch, I hope that your new plan works well for you and your new actions
are protected from class action lawsuits. Greed can be an ugly thing,
instead of just being content with surviving I see people everywhere
overwhelmed with greed, and now you are jumping on it and stepping on the
toes of your long time loyal clients, it's really a sad thing to see from
people you trust. One thing is for sure, before I pay that much for an email
server again and pay several years for yearly maintenance and upgrades, I
will be looking real long and hard at the EULA :)


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Fetter
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(


I'm sure the fact that they will start losing customers will also serve to
wake them up...

Don't they offer a 30day money back offer?  Perhaps anyone who has bought a
service agreement or product recently should ask for their money back...

Colin

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Che Vilnonis
Sent: October 25, 2004 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

Is there a specific email address at Ipswitch that we can email our
displeasure? It will take a coordinated effort to stop this madness!
$6K for an unlimited seat upgrade license? Phoo-ey!

~Che

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(


Lets all call and voice our displeasure.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
>
> It is sad but true...  I have called Ipswitch and they confirmed that
there
> is no future for a stand-alone version of IMail Server.  You must choose
> from one of the suites.
>
> They are however, receiving many calls and taking note of any complaints
or
> recommendations.  Please take a moment to call and let them know what you
> like/dislike about the new options.
>
> Until something changes, hold on to your 8.x licenses,  it may be the last
> of low-cost IMail solutions.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Gregg
> dgSoft Internet Services
> +1.949.584-1514
>
> ---
> mxGuard for IMail
> Adds anti-spam *and* anti-virus capabilities to your IMail server.
> $99 unlimited domains/users.  No service agreements.
>
> Download and install a free trial version today.
> http://www.mxGuard.com/Postmaster/FreeTrial.asp
> ---
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Checca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:23 AM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
>
>
> Yes, this is not what I hoped for.
>
> Christopher Checca
> Packard Transport, Inc.
> IT Department
> 24021 South Municipal Dr
> PO Box 380
> Channahon, IL.  60410
> 815 467 9260
> 815 467 6939 Fax
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.packardtransport.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
> (Lists)
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
> Importance: High
>
> I don't believe this.
>
> Instead of creating an add-on package, the collaboration package is an all
> encompassing package, including Imail, Premium Anti-Virus and Killer
Webmail
> templates.
>
> This is crazy.
>
> You are being asked to pay for Imail again along with paying for "Premium
> Anit-Virus" even if you already have Imail and do not want the Anti-Virus.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
>
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