I really doubt this.  It's very hard to get everyone to agree to new
standards, as all of the big players will be fighting for their own agendas.
Take a look at what has happened to SPF as an example.

I've thought for years that we needed a revision of SMTP, but creating one
and transitioning to it will not happen overnight.  Also, we haven't heard
about any new standards being planned, so that tends to make me not believe
what that salesperson said.  And then there's the fact that they are a
salesperson, not a systems architect or advisor working on an RFC.

I think we're stuck with putting bandaids on our systems for some time.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Galerneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 4:06 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent


What do you think will be your choice Bill? I've been looking at different
possibilities, including hanging in here another year but haven't made a
firm decision yet. While exploring the different possibilities of spam
protection, I talked to this one sales person that is convinced that the
fight against spam will come down to a new standard within the next year. He
said at that time everyone will need to adopt that new standard if they want
to send mail on the Internet. I tend to believe him because of the way he
presented it and all that he said about the each of the big players each
with their own idea about how to solve the growing spam problem.

With this in mind I may just but a Declude band-aid on Imail for now and
wait to see what happens.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Foresman
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 9:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent

That's why I'm not clear on how ipswtich is maintaining that their support
is a loss at $495 per year. Doesn't matter anymore as we'll be moving on
anyway but it just begs the question.

Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosityhosting.com
Office: (850) 656-2644



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Navarre
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 12:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent


> Because their product is SO good that the overall support costs are
> lower.

I would actually think that Cisco would have far more support issues than
Ipswitch due to the relative complexity of their products. While quality of
the products is certainly a large factor, there are only so many ways to
configure email server software. With routers, there are nearly an infinite
number of ways a router might be configured for nearly an infinite number of
situations. Even experienced Cisco consultants wind up contacting Cisco
support for help with tricky installs.

Paul


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