Dear Pankaj, indeed some authors described plants far from where the plants were found.
The gist of my query is knowing the place(s) on which the epithet * mauritiana* is based. While I was attempting to find it on the internet, I got mixed results and got confused. Now your thoughts helped me somewhat convinced that the epithet is based on Mauritius. Regards. Dinesh On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > Dont mind my collect please. I am trying to find the second protologue !!! > cant find anywhere.... > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thank you very much, Pankaj. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Sir Lamarck didnt colelct all plants from wild. People colelcted from >>> different parts of the world and were transfered to Paris during French >>> rule. Same as Linnaeus who never came to India but described plants from >>> India. And same as Jacquin. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Pankaj, ... many thanks your thoughts; it helped me know * >>>> mauritiana* is based on Mauritius. >>>> "Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as >>>> Mauritaniana" ... is the logic true in case of Mauritius? :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> *What I found:* >>>> This species was first described by the French biologist J. B. Lamarck, >>>> from a specimen in a botanical garden in Paris, but he did not state why he >>>> decided to name it after Mauritius Island. ... Wildflowers of >>>> Israel<http://www.wildflowers.co.il/kkl/english/plant.asp?ID=2430> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> *Ipomoea mauritiana *has following names: >>>> 1) Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / >>>> GRIN<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?311648> >>>> 2) Mauritiana Morning Glory ... >>>> Plantilus<http://plantilus.com/plantdb/IpomMaur/index.html>... though >>>> Mauritiana here is just the epithet, not name of any place in >>>> world. >>>> >>>> *and,* >>>> mauritiana => refers to ancient Mauritania ... V I R B O G >>>> A<http://www.virboga.de/Ipomoea_mauritiana.htm> >>>> >>>> *however,* >>>> Type Specimens >>>> T: ; ; Cultivated in Vienna from material collected in Mauritius >>>> ... Tropicos <http://www.tropicos.org/name/8502545> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks once again ... taking it as based on Mauritius. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mauritius was under French rule during the period when this fruit was >>>>> described by Lamarck who was also French. Hence *Ziziphus mauritiana* Lam. >>>>> should be based on Mauritius. >>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana was described by Jacquin who again was a French and >>>>> worked in South Africa too. I assume both name comes from Mauritius. >>>>> Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as >>>>> Mauritaniana!! >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> >>>>>> By the way, this query arose on finding some of the sites and >>>>>> reference books relating *mauritiana* to Mauritius. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 13 April 2013 11:59 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:151926] Query :: specific epithet (based on >>>>>> geographical name) :: mauritiana >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>> >>>>>> While compiling names of *Ipomoea mauritiana* Jacq. and *Ziziphus >>>>>> mauritiana* Lam. >>>>>> - want to make sure that *mauritiana *is of or from: Mauritania >>>>>> (country in w Africa) AND not to be confused with Mauritius (island in >>>>>> Indian Ocean) >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ipomoea mauritiana *has: >>>>>> 1) one name - Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / >>>>>> GRIN<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?311648> >>>>>> 2) its origins ... uncertain, but it has been recorded in West >>>>>> Africa, including in Gambia and the riparian forests of Benin ... >>>>>> Wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipomoea_mauritiana> >>>>>> Both Gambia and Benin are neighbouring countries of Mauritania. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BUT when looking up for *Ziziphus mauritiana*, do not find it >>>>>> pertaining in any way to Mauritania (nor Mauritius). >>>>>> Can someone help me ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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