WOW Pankaj. Excellent search. Thank you very very much. Thus epithet of *Ziziphus mauritiana* is very well confirmed to be based on Mauritius. A check on epithet of *Ipomoea mauritiana* to have some relation to Mauritius would be fantastic. Please help at your leisure. Regards. Dinesh
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritius > Please check this. It mentions that "In 1598 a Dutch squadron under > AdmiralWybrand Van Warwyck landed at Grand Port and named the island > Mauritius, in honour of Prince Maurice van Nassau,stadhouder of the > Dutch Republic. Later the island became a French colony and was > renamed Isle de France." > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Many many thanks dear Pankaj! > > At least mention of "isle" of France. > > While Mauritius is, Mauritania is not. > > > > I hope we have similar clarification for Ipomoea mauritiana. > > You may dig only during leisure. > > > > Regards. > > Dinesh > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> It actually doesnt state anything from where it went to Lamarck. > >> Interestingly the first sentence says, Isle of France.... I imagine > which > >> Island it point towards!!! > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Pankaj, indeed some authors described plants far from where the > >>> plants were found. > >>> > >>> The gist of my query is knowing the place(s) on which the epithet > >>> mauritiana is based. > >>> > >>> While I was attempting to find it on the internet, I got mixed results > >>> and got confused. > >>> Now your thoughts helped me somewhat convinced that the epithet is > based > >>> on Mauritius. > >>> > >>> Regards. > >>> Dinesh > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dont mind my collect please. I am trying to find the second protologue > >>>> !!! cant find anywhere.... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you very much, Pankaj. > >>>>> Regards. > >>>>> Dinesh > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Kumar < > [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sir Lamarck didnt colelct all plants from wild. People colelcted > from > >>>>>> different parts of the world and were transfered to Paris during > French > >>>>>> rule. Same as Linnaeus who never came to India but described plants > from > >>>>>> India. And same as Jacquin. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dinesh Valke < > [email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Pankaj, ... many thanks your thoughts; it helped me know > >>>>>>> mauritiana is based on Mauritius. > >>>>>>> "Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as > >>>>>>> Mauritaniana" ... is the logic true in case of Mauritius? :-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What I found: > >>>>>>> This species was first described by the French biologist J. B. > >>>>>>> Lamarck, from a specimen in a botanical garden in Paris, but he > did not > >>>>>>> state why he decided to name it after Mauritius Island. ... > Wildflowers of > >>>>>>> Israel. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana has following names: > >>>>>>> 1) Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / GRIN > >>>>>>> 2) Mauritiana Morning Glory ... Plantilus ... though Mauritiana > here > >>>>>>> is just the epithet, not name of any place in world. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and, > >>>>>>> mauritiana => refers to ancient Mauritania ... V I R B O G A > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> however, > >>>>>>> Type Specimens > >>>>>>> T: ; ; Cultivated in Vienna from material collected in > Mauritius > >>>>>>> ... Tropicos > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks once again ... taking it as based on Mauritius. > >>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>> Dinesh > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Pankaj Kumar > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mauritius was under French rule during the period when this fruit > >>>>>>>> was described by Lamarck who was also French. Hence Ziziphus > mauritiana Lam. > >>>>>>>> should be based on Mauritius. > >>>>>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana was described by Jacquin who again was a French > >>>>>>>> and worked in South Africa too. I assume both name comes from > Mauritius. > >>>>>>>> Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as > >>>>>>>> Mauritaniana!! > >>>>>>>> Pankaj > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> By the way, this query arose on finding some of the sites and > >>>>>>>>> reference books relating mauritiana to Mauritius. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dinesh > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> Date: 13 April 2013 11:59 > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:151926] Query :: specific epithet (based > on > >>>>>>>>> geographical name) :: mauritiana > >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear friends, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> While compiling names of Ipomoea mauritiana Jacq. and Ziziphus > >>>>>>>>> mauritiana Lam. > >>>>>>>>> - want to make sure that mauritiana is of or from: Mauritania > >>>>>>>>> (country in w Africa) AND not to be confused with Mauritius > (island in > >>>>>>>>> Indian Ocean) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana has: > >>>>>>>>> 1) one name - Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / GRIN > >>>>>>>>> 2) its origins ... uncertain, but it has been recorded in West > >>>>>>>>> Africa, including in Gambia and the riparian forests of Benin > ... Wikipedia > >>>>>>>>> Both Gambia and Benin are neighbouring countries of Mauritania. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> BUT when looking up for Ziziphus mauritiana, do not find it > >>>>>>>>> pertaining in any way to Mauritania (nor Mauritius). > >>>>>>>>> Can someone help me ? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>>>> Dinesh > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out > . > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand > >>>>>>>>> species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants > etc. (arranged > >>>>>>>>> alphabetically & place-wise): > >>>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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