Many many thanks dear Pankaj! At least mention of "isle" of France. While Mauritius is, Mauritania is not.
I hope we have similar clarification for Ipomoea mauritiana. You may dig only during leisure. Regards. Dinesh On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > It actually doesnt state anything from where it went to Lamarck. > Interestingly the first sentence says, Isle of France.... I imagine which > Island it point towards!!! > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Pankaj, indeed some authors described plants far from where the >> plants were found. >> >> The gist of my query is knowing the place(s) on which the epithet * >> mauritiana* is based. >> >> While I was attempting to find it on the internet, I got mixed results >> and got confused. >> Now your thoughts helped me somewhat convinced that the epithet is based >> on Mauritius. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dont mind my collect please. I am trying to find the second protologue >>> !!! cant find anywhere.... >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you very much, Pankaj. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sir Lamarck didnt colelct all plants from wild. People colelcted from >>>>> different parts of the world and were transfered to Paris during French >>>>> rule. Same as Linnaeus who never came to India but described plants from >>>>> India. And same as Jacquin. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Pankaj, ... many thanks your thoughts; it helped me know * >>>>>> mauritiana* is based on Mauritius. >>>>>> "Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as >>>>>> Mauritaniana" ... is the logic true in case of Mauritius? :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *What I found:* >>>>>> This species was first described by the French biologist J. B. >>>>>> Lamarck, from a specimen in a botanical garden in Paris, but he did not >>>>>> state why he decided to name it after Mauritius Island. ... Wildflowers >>>>>> of Israel<http://www.wildflowers.co.il/kkl/english/plant.asp?ID=2430> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ipomoea mauritiana *has following names: >>>>>> 1) Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / >>>>>> GRIN<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?311648> >>>>>> 2) Mauritiana Morning Glory ... >>>>>> Plantilus<http://plantilus.com/plantdb/IpomMaur/index.html>... though >>>>>> Mauritiana here is just the epithet, not name of any place in >>>>>> world. >>>>>> >>>>>> *and,* >>>>>> mauritiana => refers to ancient Mauritania ... V I R B O G >>>>>> A<http://www.virboga.de/Ipomoea_mauritiana.htm> >>>>>> >>>>>> *however,* >>>>>> Type Specimens >>>>>> T: ; ; Cultivated in Vienna from material collected in Mauritius >>>>>> ... Tropicos <http://www.tropicos.org/name/8502545> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks once again ... taking it as based on Mauritius. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mauritius was under French rule during the period when this fruit >>>>>>> was described by Lamarck who was also French. Hence *Ziziphus >>>>>>> mauritiana* Lam. should be based on Mauritius. >>>>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana was described by Jacquin who again was a French >>>>>>> and worked in South Africa too. I assume both name comes from Mauritius. >>>>>>> Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as >>>>>>> Mauritaniana!! >>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By the way, this query arose on finding some of the sites and >>>>>>>> reference books relating *mauritiana* to Mauritius. >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 13 April 2013 11:59 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:151926] Query :: specific epithet (based on >>>>>>>> geographical name) :: mauritiana >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While compiling names of *Ipomoea mauritiana* Jacq. and *Ziziphus >>>>>>>> mauritiana* Lam. >>>>>>>> - want to make sure that *mauritiana *is of or from: Mauritania >>>>>>>> (country in w Africa) AND not to be confused with Mauritius (island in >>>>>>>> Indian Ocean) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Ipomoea mauritiana *has: >>>>>>>> 1) one name - Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / >>>>>>>> GRIN<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?311648> >>>>>>>> 2) its origins ... uncertain, but it has been recorded in West >>>>>>>> Africa, including in Gambia and the riparian forests of Benin ... >>>>>>>> Wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipomoea_mauritiana> >>>>>>>> Both Gambia and Benin are neighbouring countries of Mauritania. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BUT when looking up for *Ziziphus mauritiana*, do not find it >>>>>>>> pertaining in any way to Mauritania (nor Mauritius). >>>>>>>> Can someone help me ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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