It is interesting to read the discussions.Some unknown facts emerge.... Dr Satish Phadke
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > WOW Pankaj. Excellent search. Thank you very very much. Thus epithet of > *Ziziphus > mauritiana* is very well confirmed to be based on Mauritius. > A check on epithet of *Ipomoea mauritiana* to have some relation to > Mauritius would be fantastic. Please help at your leisure. > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritius >> Please check this. It mentions that "In 1598 a Dutch squadron under >> AdmiralWybrand Van Warwyck landed at Grand Port and named the island >> Mauritius, in honour of Prince Maurice van Nassau,stadhouder of the >> Dutch Republic. Later the island became a French colony and was >> renamed Isle de France." >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Many many thanks dear Pankaj! >> > At least mention of "isle" of France. >> > While Mauritius is, Mauritania is not. >> > >> > I hope we have similar clarification for Ipomoea mauritiana. >> > You may dig only during leisure. >> > >> > Regards. >> > Dinesh >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> It actually doesnt state anything from where it went to Lamarck. >> >> Interestingly the first sentence says, Isle of France.... I imagine >> which >> >> Island it point towards!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Dear Pankaj, indeed some authors described plants far from where the >> >>> plants were found. >> >>> >> >>> The gist of my query is knowing the place(s) on which the epithet >> >>> mauritiana is based. >> >>> >> >>> While I was attempting to find it on the internet, I got mixed results >> >>> and got confused. >> >>> Now your thoughts helped me somewhat convinced that the epithet is >> based >> >>> on Mauritius. >> >>> >> >>> Regards. >> >>> Dinesh >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] >> > >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Dont mind my collect please. I am trying to find the second >> protologue >> >>>> !!! cant find anywhere.... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Dinesh Valke < >> [email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thank you very much, Pankaj. >> >>>>> Regards. >> >>>>> Dinesh >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >> [email protected]> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sir Lamarck didnt colelct all plants from wild. People colelcted >> from >> >>>>>> different parts of the world and were transfered to Paris during >> French >> >>>>>> rule. Same as Linnaeus who never came to India but described >> plants from >> >>>>>> India. And same as Jacquin. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dinesh Valke < >> [email protected]> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Dear Pankaj, ... many thanks your thoughts; it helped me know >> >>>>>>> mauritiana is based on Mauritius. >> >>>>>>> "Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as >> >>>>>>> Mauritaniana" ... is the logic true in case of Mauritius? :-) >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> What I found: >> >>>>>>> This species was first described by the French biologist J. B. >> >>>>>>> Lamarck, from a specimen in a botanical garden in Paris, but he >> did not >> >>>>>>> state why he decided to name it after Mauritius Island. ... >> Wildflowers of >> >>>>>>> Israel. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana has following names: >> >>>>>>> 1) Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / GRIN >> >>>>>>> 2) Mauritiana Morning Glory ... Plantilus ... though Mauritiana >> here >> >>>>>>> is just the epithet, not name of any place in world. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> and, >> >>>>>>> mauritiana => refers to ancient Mauritania ... V I R B O G A >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> however, >> >>>>>>> Type Specimens >> >>>>>>> T: ; ; Cultivated in Vienna from material collected in >> Mauritius >> >>>>>>> ... Tropicos >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Thanks once again ... taking it as based on Mauritius. >> >>>>>>> Regards. >> >>>>>>> Dinesh >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Pankaj Kumar >> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Mauritius was under French rule during the period when this fruit >> >>>>>>>> was described by Lamarck who was also French. Hence Ziziphus >> mauritiana Lam. >> >>>>>>>> should be based on Mauritius. >> >>>>>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana was described by Jacquin who again was a >> French >> >>>>>>>> and worked in South Africa too. I assume both name comes from >> Mauritius. >> >>>>>>>> Logically Mauritania should have been changed to latin as >> >>>>>>>> Mauritaniana!! >> >>>>>>>> Pankaj >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> By the way, this query arose on finding some of the sites and >> >>>>>>>>> reference books relating mauritiana to Mauritius. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>> Date: 13 April 2013 11:59 >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:151926] Query :: specific epithet >> (based on >> >>>>>>>>> geographical name) :: mauritiana >> >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> While compiling names of Ipomoea mauritiana Jacq. and Ziziphus >> >>>>>>>>> mauritiana Lam. >> >>>>>>>>> - want to make sure that mauritiana is of or from: Mauritania >> >>>>>>>>> (country in w Africa) AND not to be confused with Mauritius >> (island in >> >>>>>>>>> Indian Ocean) >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Ipomoea mauritiana has: >> >>>>>>>>> 1) one name - Mauritanian convolvulus ... NPGS / GRIN >> >>>>>>>>> 2) its origins ... uncertain, but it has been recorded in West >> >>>>>>>>> Africa, including in Gambia and the riparian forests of Benin >> ... Wikipedia >> >>>>>>>>> Both Gambia and Benin are neighbouring countries of Mauritania. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> BUT when looking up for Ziziphus mauritiana, do not find it >> >>>>>>>>> pertaining in any way to Mauritania (nor Mauritius). >> >>>>>>>>> Can someone help me ? >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >> >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> --- >> >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google >> >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> it, >> >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >> >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>> With regards, >> >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >> >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand >> >>>>>>>>> species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >> etc. (arranged >> >>>>>>>>> alphabetically & place-wise): >> >>>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> *********************************************************** >> >>>>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> >>>>>> IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Office: >> >>>>>> Conservation Officer >> >>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >> >>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >> >>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >>>>>> Residence: >> >>>>>> 151, 1st Floor, Tai Om Tsuen >> >>>>>> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected] >> >>>>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> >>>>>> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> *********************************************************** >> >>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> >>>> IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia >> >>>> >> >>>> Office: >> >>>> Conservation Officer >> >>>> Orchid Conservation Section >> >>>> Flora Conservation Department >> >>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >>>> Residence: >> >>>> 151, 1st Floor, Tai Om Tsuen >> >>>> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >>>> >> >>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected] >> >>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> >>>> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *********************************************************** >> >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> >> IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia >> >> >> >> Office: >> >> Conservation Officer >> >> Orchid Conservation Section >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> >> 151, 1st Floor, Tai Om Tsuen >> >> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> >> >> email: [email protected]; [email protected] >> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> >> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************************** >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia >> >> Office: >> Conservation Officer >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> Residence: >> 151, 1st Floor, Tai Om Tsuen >> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile). 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