Madam, In your earlier mail it was, "If you read the descriptions of Ixora polyantha in Cooke's Flora or in Talbot's Forest Flora of Bombay Presidency and Sind and compare them to the Flora of China description of Ixora finlaysoniana you will have all the answers."
In the latest mail it is, "the points I have written to you are based on my own observations of the two plants in the field and later confirmed by written texts. " My view is the same as it was in my earlier mail. Thank you. Regards, surajit On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:23 AM, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Surajit, > > the points I have written to you are based on my own observations of the > two plants in the field and later confirmed by written texts. > > In the end all we have are our own experiences which we can offer to > others. > > best regards > Radha > > > > On 11 May 2013 22:30, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Madam, >> >> Thank you very much for the points to be remembered about *I. polyantha* and >> *I. finlaysoniana*. Some confusions still exist - >> >> 1. I. polyantha is a much smaller shrub. >> >> - Yes, it is so in Cooke - >> >> http://ia600406.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=floraofpresidenc01cook&itemPath=%2F21%2Fitems%2Ffloraofpresidenc01cook&server=ia600406.us.archive.org&page=n626_w299 >> - Also in Talbot - >> >> http://www.archive.org/stream/TalbotTreesBombay/TalbotTreesBombayPresidency#page/n323/mode/2up >> - But not in Hooker - >> >> http://ia700609.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot21753000004407&itemPath=%2F0%2Fitems%2Fmobot21753000004407&server=ia700609.us.archive.org&page=n143_w291 >> >> 2. It thrives in a moist forest environment and not surrounded by >> buildings. >> >> - I do not know about habitat, so i should refrain here. However, >> Hooghly is a moist area and FoP informs it is cultivated in Pakistan. >> >> 3. I. polyantha flower heads are slightly flatter and less rounded. >> >> - Cooke - "Flowers in corymbiform cymes open or collected into a >> globose head" >> - Talbot - nothing found >> - Hooker - "...... or open very-many flowered branches robust..." and >> " ... collected into globose sessile head...." >> >> 4. In .I polyantha the branches of the cyme are covered in dense white >> hairs. This can be clearly seen when the flowers are in bud. >> >> - Cooke - ".. usually densely clothed with white hairs....." >> - Talbot - nothing found >> - Hooker - " .... sometimes white with dense woolly spreading hair..." >> >> 5. The leaves of I polyantha have extremely short petioles and often the >> leaves are sessile. Its leaves also appear more wrinkly than the flat >> leaves of the cultivated plant in your pics. >> >> - Cooke - (in *I. polyantha*) petiole 1/8 to 3/8 th in. long. That >> translates to about 3 mm to 9,5 mm, which is almost same as *Ixora >> finlaysoniana* in FoC >> - Talbot - nothing found >> - Hooker - leaves sessile or short petioled >> - Again i refrain about wrinkly leaves, because nothing found anywhere >> >> 6. In I. polyantha the fruits are bright red and even before they are >> ripe you can see red calyx lobes at the base of the wilting flowers. *This >> is a very noticeable feature.* >> >> - nothing found on red calyx lobes in Talbot and Hooker. Ripe fruits >> are red in Cooke >> >> Now, for winkled leaves, red calyx, please check - >> http://plantgenera.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=96985. >> >> Found *Ixora finlaysoniana* - >> >> - http://www.biolib.cz/en/taxonimage/id182195/?taxonid=213548 >> - >> >> http://ecflora.cavehill.uwi.edu/vhdetail.php?did=2438&sn=Ixora+finlaysoniana >> - >> >> http://apps.kew.org/efloras/namedetail.do?flora=fz&taxon=54829&nameid=121493#DESCRIPTION >> >> I skipped eFI posts. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> surajit >> >> >> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:55 AM, radhaveach <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Surajit, >>> >>> If you read the descriptions of Ixora polyantha in Cooke's Flora or in >>> Talbot's Forest Flora of Bombay Presidency and Sind and compare them to the >>> Flora of China description of Ixora finlaysoniana you will have all the >>> answers. >>> >>> The obvious differences which can be seen in a photograph are as follows: >>> 1. I. polyantha is a much smaller shrub. >>> 2. It thrives in a moist forest environment and not surrounded by >>> buildings. >>> 3. I. polyantha flower heads are slightly flatter and less rounded. >>> 4. In .I polyantha the branches of the cyme are covered in dense white >>> hairs. This can be clearly seen when the flowers are in bud. >>> 5. The leaves of I polyantha have extremely short petioles and often the >>> leaves are sessile. Its leaves also appear more wrinkly than the flat >>> leaves of the cultivated plant in your pics. >>> 6. In I. polyantha the fruits are bright red and even before they are >>> ripe you can see red calyx lobes at the base of the wilting flowers. *This >>> is a very noticeable feature. >>> * >>> Santhosh Kumar has quite recently posted a clear photo of I polyantha >>> which should clear your doubts. >>> >>> As far as I remember I. polyantha is also fragrant. >>> >>> I apologise if my previous reply cause some frustration. >>> >>> Requesting experts to add their comments. >>> >>> regards >>> Radha >>> >>> >>> On Friday, May 10, 2013 9:59:35 PM UTC+5:30, surajitkoley wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Radha Ji. >>>> >>>> *Thank you very much.* But, why don't you think it is *Ixora polyantha* ? >>>> I have two queries - >>>> 1) Is *I. polyantha* fragrant? >>>> 2) How do you differentiate the two species? >>>> I searched, but - https://groups.google.com/d/** >>>> msg/indiantreepix/W-AS4OWhx1U/**OLriIyMe4iYJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/W-AS4OWhx1U/OLriIyMe4iYJ> >>>> >>>> Toptropical, Dave's, The Plant List conflict with each other. So does >>>> FoC or FoP. >>>> >>>> *Thank you once again.* >>>> *Regards,* >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, 10 May 2013 15:05:35 UTC+5:30, radhaveach wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't think this is Ixora polyantha. >>>>> >>>>> Please see this efi post: >>>>> https://groups.google.com/**forum/#!searchin/** >>>>> indiantreepix/Rubiaceae$**20Week$3A$20Ixora$** >>>>> 20finlaysoniana$20Wall.$20ex$**20G.$20Don$20from$20Delhi/** >>>>> indiantreepix/p_O-MPwW9O8/**MnVH4bqpQigJ<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Rubiaceae$20Week$3A$20Ixora$20finlaysoniana$20Wall.$20ex$20G.$20Don$20from$20Delhi/indiantreepix/p_O-MPwW9O8/MnVH4bqpQigJ> >>>>> >>>>> From this it seems that the commonly cultivated Ixora in many gardens >>>>> is *Ixora finlaysoniana* Wall. ex G. Don, Gen. Hist. 3: 572 1834 >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> Radha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:32:14 PM UTC+5:30, surajitkoley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a tree with highly scented big flowers. It cannot be *I. >>>>>> parviflora* Vahl (*I. pavetta* >>>>>> Andr.<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242423581>), >>>>>> neither *I. undulata* Roxb. >>>>>> Photos were taken on 06-April-2013, in Hooghly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/aeWdGDgGt8I/unsubscribe?hl=en >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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