Dinesh since so far we dont know for sure the botanical name ramjani your guess and research is as good as anybody's mine included
so who 's to say the half m in the spelling in the last paragraph you have is not correct. for all I know it may be the right one anyway I like to keep an open mind and so may be that's the best choice and hope some Bangla phd or MA professorial type comes and takes a look... I will ask in the colleges around here when I get a chance good luck Usha di On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > On doing a second round of search - trying to check whether this could be > a name for person, found this: > রাম্জানি Ramjani - a given Indian Bengali FEMALE name ... Bengali Baby > Names - nameurbaby.com > <http://www.nameurbaby.com/babyMeaning/Bengali/Ramjani> > > This possibility is far-fetched, though cannot be overruled. > > > Another possibility is the flowering / fruiting is at its peak during the > holy month of Ramzan ... thus रमजानी. > > > I would go ahead to place ¿ রাম্জানি ? as tentative spelling for *ramjani* > until someone confidently validates it in negative OR positive. > > > Thanks and regards. > Dinesh > > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks Usha di. >> >> While I agree with all the points and clarifications put by Surajit ji >> and you. I would like to put my thought here ... many a times I have come >> across regional names which make no sense, not found in dictionaries, yet >> the name is well-known and well-used. >> >> It is when we stumble on names like *ramjani* - which are "found" in >> books but are not known to people, the suspense mounts. >> >> The possibility of spelling the name could be many ... like: 1) रामजानी >> 2) रमजानी 3) रामजनी 4) रमजनी >> >> Please give me the name रामजानी in Bangla script - I would like to >> include it as a tentative spelling for sheer possibility that someone in >> future may validate it. >> >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> not Jones' >>> its monier -williams's dictionary cited >>> sorry, somehow my hand must have hit the send button area on the screen >>> >>> I aslo had searched ayurvedic books and some kabiraji books in bangla >>> ... no ramjani... there are many plants whose name starts with Ram- but no >>> ramjani plant. or herb or medicine. >>> >>> really Ram must jano know.// god knows. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dinesh and Surajit >>>> I also searched in the books I have even in tribal medicine books >>>> including Assamese but did not find ramjani...!!!! >>>> >>>> Surajit's explanation sounds closer to home truth, many Sahib >>>> "researcher" relied on local servants for names of local vegetation. >>>> Jones's dictionary is often cited by Sanskrit scholars oas one such widely >>>> used book... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Many many thanks Surajit ji for the clarification. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:11 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I do not know, for neither Roxburgh nor Voigt provided any Bengali >>>>>> name. The name, in English script, can be found in Haines and Prain >>>>>> though. >>>>>> >>>>>> A story goes : One SAHIB, in those British days, asked his orderly >>>>>> what is the Bengali of "Close the door?" The orderly replied, "DARJA >>>>>> BANDHO >>>>>> KARO." The SAHIB remarked, "Got it, There-was-a brown crow!" >>>>>> >>>>>> "RAM" usually denotes to anything bigger, as in RAM-TULSI. >>>>>> >>>>>> RAMJANI may also translate to "Nobody knows!" or "I do not know!" >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:52 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 7 September 2014 13:07 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:199076] Names of Plants in India :: >>>>>>> Bengali name of Maesa indica >>>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Dinesh Ji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure, it may be রমজানী or রামজানি or রমজনী,.... please >>>>>>> check the attached entries from Piddington, Roxburgh, Prain, Voigt for >>>>>>> other names and related info. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sourav may help, for it is native to his place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 6:39 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 31 August 2014 13:04 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:199076] Names of Plants in India :: Bengali >>>>>>>> name of Maesa indica >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Bengali-knowing friends, please help with the name "ramjani" >>>>>>>> of Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. 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