Thanks very much Rakesh ji, Surajit ji and Usha di. We will get to know someday about this name (in yes or no). Regards. Dinesh
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:08 AM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Yes Usha Di, I referred the sites only for Bengali names of plants (not > validity of species id), what they usually provide, as for example, TULSI - > > 1. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/ocimum-sanctum.php > 2. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/ocimum-basilicum.php > > > Thank you > > Regards > > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes Surajit >> i looked at that website, i am familiar with it, and them. >> most of their pics and write up are cut and paste and not referenced... >> they never acknowledge source or type the source url etc, so how can one >> take it seriously. >> >> Back to more authentic ones... the hard evidence at hand are the >> reference books i have access to at moments notice... no such name comes up. >> >> Rakesh it nice to see you here again >> >> Usha di >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you very much Usha Di. I anticipated that you might have worked on >>> it! >>> >>> It is interesting that while Sir Prain, following Hooker, cited >>> Roxburgh's *Baeobotrys indica* & *B. nemoralis* for *Maesa indica*, >>> Haines, following Hooker, thought *Maesa indica* was partly synonymous >>> with *M. montana* DC. Similarly, Voigt thought *Baeobotrys indica* is >>> synonymous with *Maesa lanceolata*! However, latest info from FoC >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=119441> >>> informs they are different taxa. >>> >>> It is furthermore interesting that even website of Bangladesh, where >>> those trees are/were found, doesn't provide Bengali name - >>> >>> 1. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/maesa-indica.php >>> 2. http://www.mpbd.info/plants/maesa-acuminata.php >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> not Jones' >>>> its monier -williams's dictionary cited >>>> sorry, somehow my hand must have hit the send button area on the screen >>>> >>>> I aslo had searched ayurvedic books and some kabiraji books in bangla >>>> ... no ramjani... there are many plants whose name starts with Ram- but no >>>> ramjani plant. or herb or medicine. >>>> >>>> really Ram must jano know.// god knows. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dinesh and Surajit >>>>> I also searched in the books I have even in tribal medicine books >>>>> including Assamese but did not find ramjani...!!!! >>>>> >>>>> Surajit's explanation sounds closer to home truth, many Sahib >>>>> "researcher" relied on local servants for names of local vegetation. >>>>> Jones's dictionary is often cited by Sanskrit scholars oas one such widely >>>>> used book... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Many many thanks Surajit ji for the clarification. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:11 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not know, for neither Roxburgh nor Voigt provided any Bengali >>>>>>> name. The name, in English script, can be found in Haines and Prain >>>>>>> though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A story goes : One SAHIB, in those British days, asked his orderly >>>>>>> what is the Bengali of "Close the door?" The orderly replied, "DARJA >>>>>>> BANDHO >>>>>>> KARO." The SAHIB remarked, "Got it, There-was-a brown crow!" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "RAM" usually denotes to anything bigger, as in RAM-TULSI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RAMJANI may also translate to "Nobody knows!" or "I do not know!" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:52 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 7 September 2014 13:07 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:199076] Names of Plants in India :: >>>>>>>> Bengali name of Maesa indica >>>>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Dinesh Ji, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not sure, it may be রমজানী or রামজানি or রমজনী,.... please >>>>>>>> check the attached entries from Piddington, Roxburgh, Prain, Voigt for >>>>>>>> other names and related info. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sourav may help, for it is native to his place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 6:39 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: 31 August 2014 13:04 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:199076] Names of Plants in India :: >>>>>>>>> Bengali name of Maesa indica >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Bengali-knowing friends, please help with the name "ramjani" >>>>>>>>> of Maesa indica (Roxb.) A. 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