Garg ji, I sent two original images for your perusal for showing length of style compared to surrounding petals, filaments, anthers. The length of style is negligible (less than 0.5mm). The flower is as much as 10mm across, filament about 5 - 6 mm long. I would consider this plant to be *Tribulus terrestris*. Regards. Dinesh
On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 6:09 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was judging based on composite image at at Tribulus complex > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Tribulus$20AND$20lanuginosus/indiantreepix/6pt33pI2DJ8> > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 17:18, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Garg ji, here is another which is not uploaded to flickr because of very >> poor quality of the photo. >> May be this will help in judging the length of style. I hope other >> aspects (stamens, anthers) help in gauging length of style. >> I think the length of style is very minimal. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Apologies Garg ji, I thought I had seen fruits of this plant, but they >>> were of *Pedalium murex*. I think I am working very very hard :) >>> I am attaching original photo (of what we see in this post). >>> Since the capacity of attachment is 8MB, I am attaching only one photo >>> here. >>> Please check when time permits whether the length of style is negligible >>> / appreciable. >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 4:34 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> To me fruits are not visible in your images. Otherwise also,we have to >>>> rely more on the key based of Style. >>>> >>>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 10:55, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Garg ji, >>>>> I went through links ... that you mentioned in your line ... "only >>>>> *Tribulus >>>>> terrestris *var. *bicornutus* (Fisch. & C.A.Mey.) Hadidi is reported >>>>> from India, as per distribution given at the links." >>>>> >>>>> It can be seen as follows: >>>>> *Tribulus terrestris* L. >>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ff293b28a444c6d7bf16b4bd2c710db9> >>>>> * India (widespread)* >>>>> *Tribulus terrestris var. bicornutus* (Fisch. & C. A. Mey.) Hadidi >>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/9fcaf4d86a3a1f97d43763dc497305a7> >>>>> >>>>> *India (widespread) * >>>>> *Tribulus terrestris var. rajasthanensis* (Bhandari & V. S. Sharma) >>>>> F. Al-Hemaid & Jacob Thomas >>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/99136a0c9f5ce39a28b4a9e82cff4a0c> >>>>> India (Rajasthan, Gujarat) >>>>> >>>>> As per keys and details at Tribulus complex >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Tribulus$20AND$20lanuginosus/indiantreepix/6pt33pI2DJ8> >>>>> that you suggested in earlier post in this thread, Vijayasankar ji's >>>>> poster >>>>> shows fruits of three species. >>>>> In that, I see fruits of my posted plant is much closer to the parent >>>>> species: *Tribulus terrestris* than that of *Tribulus lanuginosus* >>>>> What are your thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 9:48 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, Dinesh ji. >>>>>> Among all the varieties given in Catalogue of Life >>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/search/all/key/Tribulus+terrestris+/fossil/1/match/1>, >>>>>> only *Tribulus terrestris *var. *bicornutus* (Fisch. & C.A.Mey.) >>>>>> Hadidi is reported from India, as per distribution given at the links. >>>>>> So we may take this one only. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 23:36, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Garg ji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At GBIF, I had gone through various pages, and concluded as follows: >>>>>>> *Tribulus terrestris* L. ... *synonyms, sub-species, varieties* at >>>>>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5421116> >>>>>>> *Tribulus lanuginosus* L. ... synonym of variety *Tribulus >>>>>>> terrestris* var. *bicornutus* (Fisch. & C.A.Mey.) Hadidi ... status >>>>>>> at GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5635159> >>>>>>> It was too confusing for me to dig into varieties of *Tribulus >>>>>>> terrestris*. >>>>>>> Let me know whether you think posted plant has to be labelled >>>>>>> explicitly as *Tribulus lanuginosus* L. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:44 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> May be *Tribulus lanuginosus* as per keys and details at Tribulus >>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Tribulus$20AND$20lanuginosus/indiantreepix/6pt33pI2DJ8> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 20:48 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:335700] Tribulus terrestris :: Puducherry >>>>>>>> :: 15 OCT 19 >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Pondicherry] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F49113641273%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF5pirOmx-bITzNj0GW203XB1ZM0g> >>>>>>>> Puducherry near sea coast >>>>>>>> *Date*: October 15, 2019 ... *Altitude range*: about 0 - 3 m (0 - >>>>>>>> 10 feet) asl >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *Tribulus terrestris* L. >>>>>>>> [image: Tribulus terrestris L.] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48967519426%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE6QTCsrj1iD6MKm08MzZcsiZYCzQ> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Nerunci (Tamil: நெருஞ்சி)] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923025477%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGiEXTeEtdqslyfzWAyBJ1ciYeXJQ> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Lahan gokharu (Marathi: लहान गोखरू)] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923257373%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEgjgU_iT7gcFC5UswxFR-FKmIQCg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Sanna neggilu (Kannada: ಸಣ್ಣ ನೆಗ್ಗಿಲು)] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923991447%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEq0VeczQXbvDp6qBz5V9cw-fdoQQ> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Mitha gokharu (Kachchhi: મિઠા ગોખરુ)] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923991042%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG8TowJjsKnckTFVeyYGNTPtaRL0g> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Palleru (Telugu: పల్లేరు)] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F48923255768%2Fin%2Falbum-72157711377700676%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEeIIX8_j8BP1FXH1OYNs49QKwjLw> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3vBM7YOXnRq%2BwnrYWio8WMXMNnNLq29o_RYW156Wwuew%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC3vBM7YOXnRq%2BwnrYWio8WMXMNnNLq29o_RYW156Wwuew%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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