to project the slides used to be slide projecter. slide role used to be costly. so negatives sometimes were mounted in two carboards. no cut paste, no excell, the grafs were drawn by a draftsman or we have to learn it. The last carbo copy which could not be read by anybody was in students costady because the best three had to be submitted to University. what evolution and with what speed. really mind blowing. the photographs stuck many a times were stolen! haha Any way Still research was carried out and is still continued, but now People like you, Tanay and many more on this as welll as other yahoo groups will have to bear the responsibility to gain dignity to research in India! Madhuri
--- On Thu, 16/6/11, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:71848] Re: TWO NEW SPECIES OF ERIOCAULON > (ERIOCAULACEAE) FROM INDIA......!!! > To: "Gurcharan Singh" <singh...@gmail.com> > Cc: "Madhuri Pejaver" <formpeja...@yahoo.com>, "efloraofindia" > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, 16 June, 2011, 9:05 PM > Thats really interesting. I also used > film roll cameras too but yeah i > never processed the rolls myself. Those were the times when > with one > shot I used to pray to god that I please give me a good > shot :)) > Thanks for sharing these informations.... > Pankaj > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Reminding of hard work by researchers, I remember when > we did our Ph.D., we > > used to take photograph on film camera, wash the film > ourselves in the dark > > room, purchase kodak rolls of photographic paper, cut > this and develop > > prints ourselves in the dark room. Those were the days > when research meant > > doing every thing yourself. There was no printing > available. Type the whole > > manuscript on manual type writer, three or four times, > after every proof > > correction, and when final draft was ready, get 4-5 > copies of this and for > > this you had to use 4-5 carbon papers, press each > stroke of type writer hard > > so that impression reaches to all the copies, and then > get it bound after > > inserting the photographs (mounted on A4 sheets). > Luckily the things are > > much easier now. > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, > Delhi-110007 > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Respected Mam > >> Thanks a lot for the mail. I think this is surely > going to be a > >> fruitful discussion, though we may not be able to > change patterns of > >> UGC or journals but hopefully we would be able to > change our > >> perceptions for the betterment of students. > >> Yes if you ask me, if I did it, yes I did it. I > went to multiple > >> libraries as much as I can. Still if I go anywhere > the first thing I > >> do is to look for whatever i can find on my > plants. I work 20hrs a day > >> on average and sometimes didnt sleep for 3 days on > average. Where my > >> colleague did his PhD in 3 years, I finished it in > 6 years. > >> I do believe that many good workers dont get > recognition and thats > >> really sad, especially indian researchers, it like > outsiders dont > >> trust their work. It is the perception based on > some of the fake > >> researches in India which created bad impression > about the good people > >> too. I hope such perception changes with time. I > always believe in > >> hard work and the second thing which a researcher > should have is > >> patience for sure. People running after money cant > do good research!! > >> but thats the fact of life in India, where a good > job is considered > >> better than a good education. People can leave > research in the middle > >> to get a simple job just because its permanent. > >> But still we have good researchers available in > India who can raise > >> the quality of research and hence recognition of > indian researchers to > >> higher level. I am always hopeful for a better > life, better > >> perception, better output of researchers in India > in future. > >> My best wishes to all, and dont forget I am also a > researcher :)) so > >> you all should give your good wishes to me too > :P... > >> Pankaj > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > *********************************************** > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT > !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Research Associate > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > Department of Habitat Ecology > Wildlife Institute of India > Post Box # 18 > Dehradun - 248001, India >