Dear all, Heartiest thanks to the senior members for sharing their experiences...!!! I feel lucky...!!! knowing the constraints faced by you people.. I must say, I feel great being a researcher, who have chosen myself to this arena of plant taxonomy.. During the course I had to let go a permanent government job also.. E-flora India has been giving so much positives to me.. Thanks to all the members.. Let us discuss..., argue..[?].. and fight...[?] only for the future of plant taxonomy[?] in India and abroad.... Hope everybody will take it in a right spirit, as the members have been doing so far in this thread..
NB: Let me add one more thing... Having coming from a local village near Wayanad District of Kerala, I was not much exposed to the scientific community and was not able to communicate with the people easily. Now I feel, a transformation is happening within me, feel confident in communicating with people, and the great contribution from E-flora India, can not be ignored. I know, I have to go miles again.. Hoping for a great support from the eflora India members with warm regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <formpeja...@yahoo.com>wrote: > to project the slides used to be slide projecter. slide role used to be > costly. so negatives sometimes were mounted in two carboards. > no cut paste, no excell, the grafs were drawn by a draftsman or we have to > learn it. > The last carbo copy which could not be read by anybody was in students > costady because the best three had to be submitted to University. > what evolution and with what speed. really mind blowing. > the photographs stuck many a times were stolen! > haha > Any way Still research was carried out and is still continued, but now > People like you, Tanay and many more on this as welll as other yahoo groups > will have to bear the responsibility to gain dignity to research in India! > Madhuri > > --- On Thu, 16/6/11, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:71848] Re: TWO NEW SPECIES OF ERIOCAULON > (ERIOCAULACEAE) FROM INDIA......!!! > > To: "Gurcharan Singh" <singh...@gmail.com> > > Cc: "Madhuri Pejaver" <formpeja...@yahoo.com>, "efloraofindia" < > indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> > > Date: Thursday, 16 June, 2011, 9:05 PM > > Thats really interesting. I also used > > film roll cameras too but yeah i > > never processed the rolls myself. Those were the times when > > with one > > shot I used to pray to god that I please give me a good > > shot :)) > > Thanks for sharing these informations.... > > Pankaj > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Reminding of hard work by researchers, I remember when > > we did our Ph.D., we > > > used to take photograph on film camera, wash the film > > ourselves in the dark > > > room, purchase kodak rolls of photographic paper, cut > > this and develop > > > prints ourselves in the dark room. Those were the days > > when research meant > > > doing every thing yourself. There was no printing > > available. Type the whole > > > manuscript on manual type writer, three or four times, > > after every proof > > > correction, and when final draft was ready, get 4-5 > > copies of this and for > > > this you had to use 4-5 carbon papers, press each > > stroke of type writer hard > > > so that impression reaches to all the copies, and then > > get it bound after > > > inserting the photographs (mounted on A4 sheets). > > Luckily the things are > > > much easier now. > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > Retired Associate Professor > > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, > > Delhi-110007 > > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Respected Mam > > >> Thanks a lot for the mail. I think this is surely > > going to be a > > >> fruitful discussion, though we may not be able to > > change patterns of > > >> UGC or journals but hopefully we would be able to > > change our > > >> perceptions for the betterment of students. > > >> Yes if you ask me, if I did it, yes I did it. I > > went to multiple > > >> libraries as much as I can. Still if I go anywhere > > the first thing I > > >> do is to look for whatever i can find on my > > plants. I work 20hrs a day > > >> on average and sometimes didnt sleep for 3 days on > > average. Where my > > >> colleague did his PhD in 3 years, I finished it in > > 6 years. > > >> I do believe that many good workers dont get > > recognition and thats > > >> really sad, especially indian researchers, it like > > outsiders dont > > >> trust their work. It is the perception based on > > some of the fake > > >> researches in India which created bad impression > > about the good people > > >> too. I hope such perception changes with time. I > > always believe in > > >> hard work and the second thing which a researcher > > should have is > > >> patience for sure. People running after money cant > > do good research!! > > >> but thats the fact of life in India, where a good > > job is considered > > >> better than a good education. People can leave > > research in the middle > > >> to get a simple job just because its permanent. > > >> But still we have good researchers available in > > India who can raise > > >> the quality of research and hence recognition of > > indian researchers to > > >> higher level. I am always hopeful for a better > > life, better > > >> perception, better output of researchers in India > > in future. > > >> My best wishes to all, and dont forget I am also a > > researcher :)) so > > >> you all should give your good wishes to me too > > :P... > > >> Pankaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *********************************************** > > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT > > !!" > > > > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > > Research Associate > > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > > Department of Habitat Ecology > > Wildlife Institute of India > > Post Box # 18 > > Dehradun - 248001, India > > > -- *Manudev K Madhavan* Junior Research Fellow Systematic & Floristic Lab, Department of Botany, Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research St. Joseph's College, Devagiri Kozhikode- 673 008 Mob: 9496470738
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