I see both eyes of what you two are discussing but I don't know who to favor. You both have great arguing statements. But does anyone have a policy for me to see. And if your faculty has one they have to sign also that would be great.
_____ From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Richardson,Tony Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:33 AM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: RE: [info-tech] Electronic Devices Karl, No offense taken... Nice Utopia you live in and that bubble will burst as soon as some parent is offended by what their student is allowed to do at school or a student in the hallway takes your servers down. Perhaps the loss of your erate funding will burst your bubble when it is discovered that your not CIPA compliant. Just too many threats out there to not do a little. Please don't get me wrong I'd love to not worry about devices and who's doing what. The problem is that I am contracted to keep it all running. Web 2.0 functions and mobile devices... love the concept and will try to safely develop in that direction. The problem with telling the staff anything is that they won't do it. They have their own job to do and don't have time to do yours. I don't spend my day tracking down proxies. Just block generic TCP from the LAN to the WAN which forces their proxy software (yes there is portable app software) to use port 80 then incorporate OpenDNS into your servers as forwarders seems to handle nearly all of it. Karl you have inspired me though I am going to shut down Sophos and open the firewall up immediately... power to the people! :-) _____ From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us on behalf of Karl Hehr Sent: Wed 3/31/2010 6:32 PM To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us Subject: Re: [info-tech] Electronic Devices I didn't intend for that to sound a snarky as it did, so let me rephrase it... If we spent half the time educating teachers/students/parents as we did plugging holes our jobs would be a lot less hectic. I have gotten to the point now, if someone points out a proxy site that is unblocked, I just tell the staff to have the kid get off the site and watch them, end of story. If I wanted to I could spend my day tracking down proxies and blocking sites, but that would suck so I choose not too. Karl H. Hehr Technology/Curriculum Director South Hamilton CSD www.s-hamilton.k12.ia.us 515.827.5418 (W) 515.209.9767 (C) 515.827.5368 (F) Luddite by Degrees 1) Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2) Anything that's invented between when you're 15 and 35 is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3) Anything invented after you're 35 is again the natural order of things --- Douglas Adams On Mar 31, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Karl Hehr wrote: > Here's a novel idea, don't block them and embrace the technology > the kid is bringing into the building. > > Karl H. Hehr > Technology/Curriculum Director > South Hamilton CSD > www.s-hamilton.k12.ia.us > 515.827.5418 (W) > 515.209.9767 (C) > 515.827.5368 (F) > > > Luddite by Degrees > 1) Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and > ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. > 2) Anything that's invented between when you're 15 and 35 is new and > exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. > 3) Anything invented after you're 35 is again the natural order of > things > --- Douglas Adams > > > > > On Mar 31, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Richardson,Tony wrote: > >> The only real way to fix the little iPod buggers is to employ a NAC >> device to keep them off of your network to begin with. One that looks >> good is the Veri-NAC from Black Box http://www.blackbox.com/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us >> [mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Karl Hehr >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:08 PM >> To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us >> Subject: Re: [info-tech] Electronic Devices >> >> >> What kind of filter are you using. Our sonicwall filters all internet >> traffic regardless of what type of hardware it is. The only thing I >> have no control over (filter wise) is cellphones using their data >> connections. >> >> Karl H. Hehr >> Technology/Curriculum Director >> South Hamilton CSD >> www.s-hamilton.k12.ia.us >> 515.827.5418 (W) >> 515.209.9767 (C) >> 515.827.5368 (F) >> >> >> Luddite by Degrees >> 1) Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and >> ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. >> 2) Anything that's invented between when you're 15 and 35 is new and >> exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. >> 3) Anything invented after you're 35 is again the natural order of >> things >> >> --- Douglas Adams >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Mitch Mueller wrote: >> >>> Looking for some good advice from you smarter than myself. We are >>> trying to >>> block the student iPod Touch's from being able to get to facebook >>> and >>> myspace and ect. If someone can help me with that, that would be >>> great. >>> >>> Also if you would be willing to share your electronic device policy >>> that >>> your school has could you please email it to me personally at >>> mmuel...@emmetsburg.k12.ia.us or you can post it on the info-tech >>> list if >>> you would like. >>> >>> But my big thing is blocking them sites on iPod touch's. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Mitch Mueller >>> Emmetsburg CSD >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server >>> aea8.k12.ia.us] >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> Archived messages from this list can be found at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> --- >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server >> aea8.k12.ia.us] >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Archived messages from this list can be found at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> --- >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server >> aea8.k12.ia.us] >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Archived messages from this list can be found at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ >> --------------------------------------------------------- > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server > aea8.k12.ia.us] > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Archived messages from this list can be found at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ > --------------------------------------------------------- --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus on the server aea8.k12.ia.us] --------------------------------------------------------- Archived messages from this list can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us/ ---------------------------------------------------------
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