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Hi Brynn,
thank you for your feedback!
ad 1)
I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen heights. The
expanding box would be nice, but we don't have something like that
available currently, I believe. Maybe something for a website feature
request?
ad 3)
No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav. This shouldn't
prevent you from starting with the animation page, though. I can take
care of the rest of this page ('About SVG'), if you would like to proceed.
The link selection you added to the page looks like a really good
selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link list, and renamed
two items. Thank you!
Regards,
Maren
Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
> Hi again,
> This is a reply to the last msg in the "Where does this belong"
thread. But I think that topic has ended, and has now become more about
the new page. I hope it's ok to start a new thread like this.
>
> 1. I was just looking at the new About SVG page that Maren
started, which looks awesome! The one thing that I wonder about is the
section of code in the middle. It's approx 5.5 pages long, on my
screen. Would it be possible to make the text smaller (say by 2 to 4
pts), so that it takes up less space? Or show less of the code? Or
maybe put it on another page, and link to it? Or have a very small
block, say 100 or 200 pixels square, and when you either click, or
mouseover, it expands down?
> I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and it's a
good thing. But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors will
think that's the end of the page, and move on? Plus, I imagine the "How
does Inkscape use SVG" section could be fairly long, as well.
>
> 2. Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll just put the
URL for each link, on the draft page.
>
> 3. Now that we have this draft on staging, is there any idea
when it will go up on live? I ask, because I'm anxious to start a page
for animation topics, but want to see this through first.
>
> 4. Does anyone know who might be responsible for the Learn SVG
site, or at least who put it on the Books page? It still just bugs me
that various parts of that site aren't connected together (via link from
its front page). It's something that makes me think the site will
succumb to bitrot sooner than later (maybe has already started) and
makes me not want to use it. But otherwise, it really is a nice site.
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:50 PM
> To: <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong? ("advanced" SVG
coding)
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've started the 'About SVG' page for the 'Develop' submenu at
>> http://staging.inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg.
>> There aren't any links in it yet, because of the plugin links not being
>> transferable from staging to live.
>> Text formatting isn't finished yet, either.
>>
>> The last section, where links to external pages will live, is your
>> realm, Brynn :)
>>
>> For the next-to-last section, I would appreciate Tav's and every other
>> developer's help for prompting me with some keywords, and probably
>> people will also have additional remarks for the 'Why...' section.
>>
>> Improvement / wording / orthography suggestions welcome!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 04.03.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
>>>
>>> Hi Brynn,
>>>
>>> Am 04.03.2015 um 00:52 schrieb Brynn:
>>>
>>> > I did a little searching, but then I wanted to see the overview that
>>> > you were going to write, to get some hints about some different
>>> > search terms. (I'm not very knowledgeable about this.) So far,
>>> > I've found a few tutorials (on writing SVG). Although I agree that
>>> > we probably want to limit the "unofficial links", as much as
>>> > possible. Martin replied to me privately (for some reason), saying he
>>> > didn't think a new menu item is needed, and that he thinks the new
>>> > page about SVG should go in Develop menu. It sounds like the page
>>> > should have 2 sections: How Inkscape Uses SVG2 and Learn SVG.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Sounds good to me, and it sounds like we'll definitely need some
>>> input from Tav for the specifics...
>>>
>>> > OH!! I found it. I don't know why in the world a website set up to
>>> > accompany a book, doesn't have a link to the book *anywhere* on the
>>> > site!! But here it is: -- free PDF download:
>>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/58271695/Learn-SVG -- purchase:
>>>
>>>
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/5485/Learn-SVG-The-Web-Graphics-Standard
>>>
>>>
>>> > Those should probably go on Books and Manuals page?
>>>
>>> - Congrats on finding it :) and thanks for not giving up digging!
>>>
>>> Yes, I think that link could be added back in there, with one caveat:
>>> The text is from ~ 2003. The principles are probably still the same for
>>> the majority of the contents, the maths didn't change, and I believe
>>> backwards compatibility is something which is taken seriously by W3C,
>>> but many details and tipps and tricks mentioned in the text will be
>>> outdated, and some new functionality must have been built in in the
>>> meantime. There are some nice nostalgic screenshots of Netscape - and in
>>> contrast to the text, even IE now supports SVG... ;)
>>> So we'll need to add a hint about the age of the text, and about the
>>> areas where it is still valid, and where it is not. I can't really judge
>>> this, unfortunately. Another question for Tav, I'm afraid.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Maren
>>>
>>>
>>> > All best :-)
>>>
>>> > -------------------------------------------------- From: "Maren
>>> > Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015
>>> > 9:33 AM To: <br...@inkscapecommunity.com>; "Inkscape-Docs"
>>> > <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs]
>>> > where does this belong? ("advanced" SVG coding)
>>>
>>> >>
>>> > Hi Brynn,
>>>
>>> > finally, I'm back and have some time to write something up.
>>>
>>> >>>> Ok :-)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'm about to go offline for now. But I'll plan on doing some
>>> > searching, the
>>> >>>> next time I'm back online, and I'll look for a new page with
>>> >>>> intro
>>> > text, if
>>> >>>> you can get it started, Maren. And then Maren and I can
>>> >>>> collaborate from there. Maybe during my search I'll get some
>>> >>>> ideas about organizing the page. It may end up being just a
>>> >>>> handful of links, but....well, as we've said, at least it will
>>> >>>> be a start.
>>> >>>>
>>>
>>> > Do you already have a list of links which should be included in the
>>> > SVG page and/or the SVG animation page? And has there been any
>>> > progress on where those pages should end up? It's also possible to
>>> > move a page after it has been created, so if we don't know where to
>>> > put it yet, it's not so problematic (Although it would help to know
>>> > the intended audience of a text before writing it...) Just don't put
>>> > it in the menu before it is finished (the little red/green sign at
>>> > the end of the row in the pages list should be red), and don't link
>>> > to it before we know where it will live.
>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> uh-oh.....could the site, the django part handle some simple
>>> >>>> animation of SVG?....maybe you guys
>>> > would
>>> >>>> have to set up that part of the page, since I don't understand
>>> >>>> a lot of those django plugins?
>>>
>>> > - I think that should work just fine. It only depends on browser
>>> > support, but not on the website. A js-based animation made with sozi
>>> > can be viewed by clicking the 'view' button:
>>> > http://staging.inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/19/ . I copied Tav's
>>> > SMIL/CSS animations from his page
>>> > http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/ANIMATION/ to check, as I didn't have
>>> > any: a SMIL animation can be viewed directly, even in the gallery
>>> > view; a CSS based animation can be viewed with the view button.
>>>
>>> > Regards, Maren
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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