Hi,
I think some of the new diesel fuel injectors have a psi of around 3000 psi.
Could something like this be use for the water?
Ron
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From: "Mitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Interact" <interact@listserv.capital-master.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:12 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Keelynet] New variant of Eternal engine.
O.K. Jerry, I'll take a crack at this. It appears that this guy is
talking about a simple steam engine. He rightly says that water under
various pressures boils at different temperatures, and is telling us how
his engine works. He uses super heated water to 800 degrees c. which is
under extreme pressure, and therefore still in a liquid state, as the sole
source of pressure in the piston. When the piston is just beyond top dead
center, probably 2 degrees, the superheated water is injected into the
cylinder. Now that the water is in the piston, the pressure variable has
changed, and the water literally 'explodes' into steam, expanding itself
1673 times its liquid volume, which then creates tremendous pressure
within the cylinder, forcing the piston to move, and running the engine.
After the steam has done it's work, and as the piston returns to top dead
center, a valve opens and allows the steam to return to a closed loop
system for recycling back into the piston, thereby reducing the energy
required to heat the water, because the steam is returning to, and helping
to keep hot, the water reservoir.
This differs from a normal steam engine in only one respect; in a normal
motor, the boiler makes the steam, and the steam that is in the boiler is
under pressure, and this pressure is common to the boiler and piston.
There is no 'explosive force', because once the water turns to steam, that
is the only pressure used. Also a normal steam engine does not usually
recycle the heat.
In Vasily's motor, superheated water goes into the cylinder, and then
expands. Actually, this engine should be much more efficient than a normal
engine, but I don't see any over-unity here, because there sill has to be
a heat source for the water. But, It looks like he says that as the steam
'explodes', it somehow helps to heat the water for the next cycle. How it
would do that, I don't know. Also, I have to wonder, if there was a given
amount of water that exactly filled it's sealed container, and this was
heated to 1800 degrees Fahrenheit, what would the pressure on the
container be? The water, while not allowed to expand into steam, would
remain liquid, but surely the pressures would be tremendous, and require
some real power to pump in more water to keep the reservoir full. Mitch
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From: "Jerry Decker - KN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Interact" <interact@listserv.capital-master.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Keelynet] New variant of Eternal engine.
Hola Vasily et al!
I am posting this to our list to see if there is any feedback, thanks!
http://www.mail-archive.com/interact%40listserv.capital-master.com/maillist.html
Vasily Bezukladnikov wrote:
- In diesel the air (in following cycles in the cylinder instead of
air will be already the steam) heat up by compression to 800 *C.
Injected water at first will cool hot air, which will be compressed
from cooling by cool water, it will facilitate the further squeeze of
air by piston. At diminishing of temperature on one degree of Celsius
any gas decreases on 1/273 part of volume. The water warms up from
hot jammed air, but pressing of environment of the cylinder hampers a
boiling of water, though already at temperature 372 *C all water
accepts a gaseous phase independently from the further growth of
pressure.
Pressure, p (Atm.) 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 ... 100 218 Water
boiling-point, t (C*) - 100 119 132 141 150 157 163 168 173 178 182
... 310 372
Analyzing temperature of entered water and the speed of rotation of
crankshaft and the load, the electronics should regulate the
injection time, the quantity and the size of droplets of sprayed
water so that water boiled only after passage by the piston of the
top dead center. The water, at the boiling or steam exhalation,
increases the volume in 1673 times, than helps compressed air to push
the piston. During a working stroke in cylinder, falls the pressure
of gases, from it the all super-heated water do boil as explosion and
gives an accumulated surplus energy to compressed steam for pushing
the piston. Besides, the explosion do the shock wave, which by the
strongest heating of gas can instantly ignite various subjects, and
which with supersonic speed having repeatedly a reflect from the
piston and surface of cylinder, does the essential heating of the
formerly compressed steam. In moment of bottom dead center the
electronics through the small outlet valve issues only surpluses of
air (of steam) into a radiator for repeated using of condensation
water. In the beginning of new compression, when in the cylinder
impedes injection almost minimal pressure, the water enters and
stimulates cooling, condensation and compression of steam in
cylinder.
Excuse bad translation from Russian
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