Hello Ron. Yes, an injector can be made to operate at almost any pressure.
Modern concrete cutters use a water pressure of 30,000 to 40,000 P.S.I.- so
it can be done. The only problem I see with Vasily's steam motor is holding
the liquid pressure from becoming steam. This is one subject that I know
little about. In Vasily's letter, he has given us a table on the pressures
and temperatures at which water turns to steam. I will do a little research
in this area. However, there is a phenomenon that may hold a key to this
problem. If you put a cup of water in a microwave, and heat it to beyond the
boiling point, sometimes it doesn't actually boil until disturbed. Sometimes
it stays liquid until you actually remove it from the microwave, and this
'vibrational' disturbance causes the water to erupt violently, with
explosive force, turning to steam, burning you badly in the process. So,
perhaps, there is a way to keep water liquid at extremely high temperatures,
without it making really high pressures. If this is the case, then Vasily's
motor looks better and better. It is very difficult to understand the broken
English that is used in the explanation. Maybe we can get Vasily to explain
it better for us. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Hammar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Interact" <interact@listserv.capital-master.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Keelynet] [SPAM] Re: New variant of Eternal engine.
Hi,
I think some of the new diesel fuel injectors have a psi of around 3000
psi. Could something like this be use for the water?
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:12 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Keelynet] New variant of Eternal engine.
O.K. Jerry, I'll take a crack at this. It appears that this guy is
talking about a simple steam engine. He rightly says that water under
various pressures boils at different temperatures, and is telling us how
his engine works. He uses super heated water to 800 degrees c. which is
under extreme pressure, and therefore still in a liquid state, as the
sole source of pressure in the piston. When the piston is just beyond top
dead center, probably 2 degrees, the superheated water is injected into
the cylinder. Now that the water is in the piston, the pressure variable
has changed, and the water literally 'explodes' into steam, expanding
itself 1673 times its liquid volume, which then creates tremendous
pressure within the cylinder, forcing the piston to move, and running the
engine. After the steam has done it's work, and as the piston returns to
top dead center, a valve opens and allows the steam to return to a closed
loop system for recycling back into the piston, thereby reducing the
energy required to heat the water, because the steam is returning to, and
helping to keep hot, the water reservoir.
This differs from a normal steam engine in only one respect; in a normal
motor, the boiler makes the steam, and the steam that is in the boiler is
under pressure, and this pressure is common to the boiler and piston.
There is no 'explosive force', because once the water turns to steam,
that is the only pressure used. Also a normal steam engine does not
usually recycle the heat.
In Vasily's motor, superheated water goes into the cylinder, and then
expands. Actually, this engine should be much more efficient than a
normal engine, but I don't see any over-unity here, because there sill
has to be a heat source for the water. But, It looks like he says that as
the steam 'explodes', it somehow helps to heat the water for the next
cycle. How it would do that, I don't know. Also, I have to wonder, if
there was a given amount of water that exactly filled it's sealed
container, and this was heated to 1800 degrees Fahrenheit, what would the
pressure on the container be? The water, while not allowed to expand into
steam, would remain liquid, but surely the pressures would be tremendous,
and require some real power to pump in more water to keep the reservoir
full. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Decker - KN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Interact" <interact@listserv.capital-master.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Keelynet] New variant of Eternal engine.
Hola Vasily et al!
I am posting this to our list to see if there is any feedback, thanks!
http://www.mail-archive.com/interact%40listserv.capital-master.com/maillist.html
Vasily Bezukladnikov wrote:
- In diesel the air (in following cycles in the cylinder instead of
air will be already the steam) heat up by compression to 800 *C.
Injected water at first will cool hot air, which will be compressed
from cooling by cool water, it will facilitate the further squeeze of
air by piston. At diminishing of temperature on one degree of Celsius
any gas decreases on 1/273 part of volume. The water warms up from
hot jammed air, but pressing of environment of the cylinder hampers a
boiling of water, though already at temperature 372 *C all water
accepts a gaseous phase independently from the further growth of
pressure.
Pressure, p (Atm.) 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 ... 100 218 Water
boiling-point, t (C*) - 100 119 132 141 150 157 163 168 173 178 182
... 310 372
Analyzing temperature of entered water and the speed of rotation of
crankshaft and the load, the electronics should regulate the
injection time, the quantity and the size of droplets of sprayed
water so that water boiled only after passage by the piston of the
top dead center. The water, at the boiling or steam exhalation,
increases the volume in 1673 times, than helps compressed air to push
the piston. During a working stroke in cylinder, falls the pressure
of gases, from it the all super-heated water do boil as explosion and
gives an accumulated surplus energy to compressed steam for pushing
the piston. Besides, the explosion do the shock wave, which by the
strongest heating of gas can instantly ignite various subjects, and
which with supersonic speed having repeatedly a reflect from the
piston and surface of cylinder, does the essential heating of the
formerly compressed steam. In moment of bottom dead center the
electronics through the small outlet valve issues only surpluses of
air (of steam) into a radiator for repeated using of condensation
water. In the beginning of new compression, when in the cylinder
impedes injection almost minimal pressure, the water enters and
stimulates cooling, condensation and compression of steam in
cylinder.
Excuse bad translation from Russian
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