Hello Hannes,

Sunday, March 23, 2008, 12:43:20 PM, you wrote:

> Hi Tex

> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Tex Texin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Pierre, Marcus, et al.
>>
>>  1) The project started a year or so ago.


> So for a whole year none of you (not even the Zend employees that
> should know better) thought that there maight be a coding standard
> that you should follow?
> Both for the extension itself and everything it exposes to the user.


>>  The manual documentation was announced by Stas for review to this list as 
>> well on Dec 4.


> And the changes requested by us still haven't been made.


>>  So there has been opportunity for input on the specs and the project is 
>> above board. No one is "deciding anything about PHP".


> Few people want this extension to be moved to core, which means: every
> decision about this extension is "deciding anything about PHP".


>>  2) I cannot fathom why you say that minds cannot be changed. Questions were 
>> asked and answered. The discussion is ongoing. Where is the problem?


> This thread originated on [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is a big fat
> problem. Why didn't you use [EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>  4) One more note: As the specs and beta have been out for months, we 
>> thought we were near done. Also, some of the people that worked on this have 
>> to move on to other tasks. We also have a need for the intl extension and so 
>> would like to see at least a first version become available.
>>
>>  Considering the above, please don't interpret responses that propose to put 
>> in the next version what some might consider to be enhancements, as anything 
>> other than we have run out of time and man/woman power, but need and can use 
>> what is there today.


> So what you are saying is everyone working on the extension are simply
> waiting for the 1.0.0-stable release before they move on and will
> never look back?
> Thats awesome and the most important reason why this extension cannot
> go into core.

I agree. Given the circumstances we encountered just now, I do not think
that pecl/intl is in any condition to be put into core. Johannes, what do
you think, should we change the 5.3 wiki?


Best regards,
 Marcus


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