On 11 Aug 2010, at 17:01, Elizabeth M Smith wrote:

> Well this is turning into a real flamefest.

I'm now totally confused to be honest.

> Personally I really HATE the 5.3 implementation of "typehints" - heck you 
> can't even typehint arrays with an arrayobject instance, it's not hinting in 
> any way shape or form and is generally broken.
> 
> On the other hand I'd like to be able to have the same control of parameters 
> in my userland code that I do in extensions - namely the same control I get 
> with zend_parse_parameters.  And the same errors/warnings I get with 
> zend_parse_parameters

This.

> Any reason we can't expose the logic included there into userland? Would make 
> internal functions and userland functions work the same and act the same.

> 
> Anyway, at this point there's a lot of arguing and very little consensus.  
> I'm kind of tempted to say maybe all the people on the internals mailing list 
> are a bit myopic in their viewpoints, and maybe this does need to get out to 
> a wider community (php.general perhaps?) since the guy hacking on a wordpress 
> plugin is every bit as much a PHP user as any of us.

Absolutely.

Melanie


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