On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Sharon Levy <iam4webw...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Andrey Andreev <n...@devilix.net> > Sent: Sep 29, 2014 3:01 PM > To: Sharon Levy <sle...@pipeline.com> > Cc: Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com>, Derick Rethans <der...@php.net>, Andrea > Faulds <a...@ajf.me>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on > RFCs? > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Sharon Levy <sle...@pipeline.com> wrote: > >> >> I think in all fairness, users should be required to learn C and pass a >> >> test >> >> demonstrating basic knowledge of PHP's internals in order to acquire >> >> voting >> >> privileges. >> > >> >So, in order to vote, users should become (capable of being) core >> >contributors? :) >> >How does that change anything? >> > >> >Cheers, >> >Andrey. > > "... the important truths, that knolege is power, that knolege is safety, > and that knolege is happiness." -- Thomas Jefferson > > If more users were educated about PHP's internals, then there could be more > substantive discussions between Userland and core contributors, including > better ideas originating from Userland. More users might even consider > becoming core contributors. It would change the status quo. >
Well, let's see ... what is the current status quo? Currently, all voters have VCS accounts, meaning that they already are at least one of: a) C code contributors b) documentation contributors c) contributing to the php.net website or something else but similar It is written somewhere that maintainers of popular userland frameworks and tools _could_ get voting privileges, but the voters from this group are voters because they already have VCS accounts for other purposes. It is otherwise undefined how that happens - this is as close as you can get to the meaning of "status quo" as far as userland people are concerned. What this basically means is that currently you ARE required to either know C and PHP's internals, or to take care of all the not really fun (for a programmer) stuff that surrounds it. It that hasn't encouraged more people to contribute, how would taking away non-C-contributors' votes be an encouragement? If I was a php-doc contributor, that would be you showing me the middle finger, not encouragement. Sure, it would change the status quo, but for the worse. Cheers, Andrey. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
