On Thu, 12 Feb 2015, Ole Troan wrote:

But that's "better value" by making IPv4 work less good. and I'll postulate that we can make A+P / shared IPv4 work good enough that end-users who are trained to live behind a NATs will not notice.

Problem with that is that this doesn't work with anything that doesn't have +P, so for instance my corporate VPN doesn't work because for some reason it uses GRE.

I think we're going to have to do some kind of A+P for protocols with port, and then do CGN (ds.lite) for everything else.

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