> Tony Hain wrote: > The market doesn't pick technology for technologies sake, it > picks tools that solve an acute problem.
Indeed. > This means that nat will be with us until it becomes part of > the problem that needs solving. Consumer friendly p2p is the > obvious catalyst, so the answer to your 'at what point' > question becomes, when there are applications that consumers > want to deploy. Note that p2p is not that unfriendly as of now. I just had a look at one of the pieces of p2p I use at home; there are some 230k users on the server I connect to, plus a load of other ones with 100k+ users. Some of the files have 500+ simultaneous sources. These guys are not all network geeks, and a fair number have broadband and are behind NATs or behind some kind of a firewall (I ran a few probes). It means that the point where Joe-six-pack that bought a $50 NAT box is able to type "http://192.168.1.1";, figure out that the password is "admin" and use the web interface to open the one port that the p2p app needs open has been reached. Out of the million something users I see right now on _one_ p2p app, I'd be damned if there are not 100k Joes and Janes that don't understand squat about networks but that spent the time to read what they had to do in order to get free pr0n, warez or free mp3s. If it has reached that kind of mass acceptance, it must be easy enough. Michel. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
