Hi Shree,

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:31 PM, JOSHI, SHRINIVAS ASHOK (SHRINIVAS ASHOK) <
shrinivas_ashok.jo...@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:

> Niviya,
>
>
> >> "When a multicast-capable interface becomes enabled, the node MUST join
> the all-nodes multicast address on that interface, as well as the solicited-
> >> node multicast address corresponding to each of the IP addresses
> assigned to the interface."
> >> Any idea What does this statement mean?
>
> [Shree] If the hosts on link are connected through a multicast aware device
> (e.g. switch with MLD proxy),
> these messages are intended to  inform the switch that host is interested
> in receiving packets destined
> to all -nodes and solicited node multicast address.
>
> Can u please tell me what protocol it will use ? Will it be a MLD
> report  with destination "all-node multicast address"? If it is yes, As per
> RFC3810, MLD report should not use for joining into all node multicast
> address.?
>



> >> Why the node is sending unsolicited NA message ( with source as
> "link-local address" & destination as "all-node multicast address").
> >> I am expecting only one unsolicited NA message( with source as "ipv6
> global address" & destination as "all-node multicast address").
> >> I am not at all changing the link-local address and the link-local
> address is already active on the interface.
>
>
> [Shree] If you are assigning an address the node should send out Neighbor
> solicitation
>  as part of Duplicate Address Detection(source as unspecified address and
> destination as solicited node multicast address).
>
> What will happen if I didnt enable DAD ?


> From what you are seeing it looks like link layer address is getting
> changed, one way to verify it is through the override flag and source link
> layer address option
> n unsolicited neighbor advertisement. Before and after you apply the ipv6
> address.
>
> Override flag is set and source link-layer address remains the same:-

> --
> Shree
>
>
> From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> niviya vijayan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:59 AM
> To: Suresh Krishnan
> Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: RFC 4861:-Link-Local address joining all-node multicast group.
>
>  Hi Suresh,
>
> RFC 4861 Statement:- 7.2.1.Interface Initialization
>
> "When a multicast-capable interface becomes enabled, the node MUST join the
> all-nodes multicast address on that interface, as well as the solicited-
>  node multicast address corresponding to each of the IP addresses assigned
> to the interface."
> Any idea What does this statement mean?
>
> For the second query:-
>
> I didnt change the MAC address of the card. I tried creating a new ipv6
> address on the interface and I have seen these two unsolicited NA
> messages.My question is , Why the node is sending unsolicited NA message (
> with source as "link-local address" & destination as "all-node multicast
> address").I am expecting only one unsolicited NA message( with source as
> "ipv6 global address" & destination as "all-node multicast address").  I am
> not at all changing the link-local address and the link-local address is
> already active on the interface.
>
> Regards,
> Niviya
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Suresh Krishnan <
> suresh.krish...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hi Niviya,
>
>
> On 10-04-20 05:09 AM, niviya vijayan wrote:
> Hi Suresh,
>  Thanks for your reply. I have a doubt on your answer.
>  As per your comments, there can be two MLD report msg which will join the
> node in solicited multicast group . But in the RFC 4861, they have mention
> there should be a join request to all node multicast group.
>
> As described in section 6 of RFC3810 MLD reports are not sent for the
> all-nodes multicast address
>
> "  The link-scope all-nodes multicast address, (FF02::1), is handled as
>   a special case.  On all nodes -- that is all hosts and routers,
>   including multicast routers -- listening to packets destined to the
>   all-nodes multicast address, from all sources, is permanently enabled
>   on all interfaces on which multicast listening is supported.  No MLD
>   messages are ever sent regarding neither the link-scope all-nodes
>   multicast address, nor any multicast address of scope 0 (reserved) or
>   1 (node-local)."
>
> .
>
> RFC 4861 Statement:- 7.2.1.Interface Initialization
>
> "When a multicast-capable interface becomes enabled, the node MUST join the
> all-nodes multicast address on that interface, as well as the solicited-
>  node multicast address corresponding to each of the IP addresses assigned
> to the interface."
>
>   I have one more query  regarding NA messages.
>  While creating ipv6 address on an interface, unsolicited NA messages will
> be sent to all node multicast address to inform all other nodes in the
> network. When i tried this scenario , I have seen two NA messages.
>  1) source as ipv6 address and destination as ipv6 all node address.
> 2) source as link-local address and destination as ipv6 all node address.
>  My question is, whenever there is a change in ipv6 address on a node, both
> these 2 NA messages will propogate through the network?
> or is it really required to share about the link-local address as we are
> not at all changing the ipv6 link-local address.?
>
> It is unclear what the circumstances are. Specifically, what action did you
> perform that resulted in these messages? Did you change the MAC address of
> the card?
>
> Hi Suresh,
>
> I didnt change the MAC address of the card. I tried creating a new ipv6
> address on the interface and I have seen these two unsolicited NA
> messages.My question is , Why the node is sending unsolicited NA message (
> with source as "link-local address" & destination as "all-node multicast
> address").I am expecting only one unsolicited NA message( with source as
> "ipv6 global address" & destination as "all-node multicast address").  I am
> not at all changing the link-local address and the link-local address is
> already active on the interface.
>
> Cheers
> Suresh
>
>
>
>
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