Le 31/03/2011 18:00, Jong-Hyouk Lee a écrit :
Hi, Alex.

Please, come back to a person who I know. See inline.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Alexandru Petrescu
<alexandru.petre...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Le 31/03/2011 17:02, Jong-Hyouk Lee a écrit :

Hi, Alex.

Plz, see inline. I fully failed to understand your words.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Alexandru Petrescu
<alexandru.petre...@gmail.com>    wrote:

Le 31/03/2011 16:19, Bob Hinden a écrit :

On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Brim wrote:

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:32, Bob
Hinden<bob.hin...@gmail.com>  wrote:

They could use a fixed car address and use mobile IPv6
with a provider based address.

That would help.  A rendezvous point (e.g. home agent)
always helps to protect confidentiality. Plus a firewall to
protect the always-out-of-date vehicle software.   They can
work out how to do path optimization later.

I agree.  If you put the "home agent" in the middle of the
internet (for some value of middle), then path optimization
probably isn't that important.

Makes some sense.  This "middle" depends on latency; and core
network has an order of magnitude (sometimes 2) less than even
 the first hop to vehicle.

In the context of ITS communication, how do you expect the
movement of vehicles?

Right, mouvement of private vehicles is unpredictable.  Some
common sense may reduce the space to, say, mostly a continent.  And
even some vehicles like trains have very highly predictable
trajectories.

Not only ITS should be considered, but also operators of public
transportation networks (if they're not already part of it).

Then, how do you decide the location of home agent for reducing
the routing performance for user data packets destined to hosts
attached to the router of a vehicle?

The direct seller of vehicle (concessionnaire, garage) may decide
to host HA relativley close (geo terms) to where the vehicle is
owned, suffices HA to be on wire instead of wireless, which is
rather natural. The parts manufacturer too.  The transportation
operator, etc.

Ummm...let me explain a little thing about the use of home agent
(HA) in the context of ISO and ETSI. The HA is located at the central
ITS station that must be maintained by authorized organization,
i.e., belonging to the government.

Hmm... yes that can be done.  Some governments are even Cert Auth, but
that does not prevent other private organizations to be CA.

Such private companies will not have permissions to install the HA;
might be possible for only private company's client, but this is not
 the case we're talking here.

Ah I see, I agree.

But I am still curious to understand the lines of VIN-v6 proposal
before discarding it. In the process maybe I (or someone else) get a
chance to suggest some alternative... to satisfy some requirement,
some problem statement.

Alex

The common wisdom of needing to host a webcache closer in order to
deliver data quicker to http clients assumes the http clients use
wire too (as the servers do).  The latency difference between pc's
 wire and server's wire is much smaller than between server's wire
 and wireless.

Come on. I don't really know why you bring this text here.


That means that it may suffice to put the HA on wired link,
anywhere in the Internet, and relatively close (in terms of
hopcount) to where the handover is about to take place.

In the context of this thread, Bob mentioned about the routing
performance, exactly saying user data packets' routing
performance, not saying handover latency mainly consisted of 1)
movement detection at IP level; 2) address configuration; and 3)
 location update (BU/BA) to the home agent.

Right, I didn't mean handover performance.

Routing performance... hmm... I believe there is not much routing
performance gain when trying to bring HA as close as possible to
the handover place.

Alex

Cheers.

And not necessarily put it where eg

akamai stuff sits.

Alex

Bob

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