On Aug 18, 2011, at 3:43 PM, George, Wesley wrote:

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> From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joel 
> Jaeggli
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 1:58 PM
> To: ipv6@ietf.org
> Subject: Questions from the Authors of draft-gashinsky-v6nd-enhance
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> 1.      Is this document (draft-gashinsky-v6nd-enhance) worthwhile?
> WEG] Yes
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> 2. Is there critique of the two proposed 4861 changes?
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>             B. 7.4 ND cache priming and refresh
> WEG] might be worth thinking about situations where DHCPv6 is in use and 
> whether that can be leveraged to achieve something similar to this, i.e. 
> watch the DHCPv6 messages go past and pre-populate the ND cache accordingly.

Wow. 

I hadn't though of that, but seeing as a bunch of things already snoop / relay 
DHCP, this seems clever...

W

>  
> 2.      Should we separate the potential mitigations (section 6) and 
> implementation advice (section 7.1 and 7.2) into a separate document.
> WEG] yes. I think that there’s value in getting the explanation and 
> short-term mitigation techniques out there sooner rather than later, and then 
> if there is consensus that there is protocol work to be done to further 
> mitigate the issue because the workarounds and tweaks discussed aren’t enough 
> on their own, the workarounds and discussion of the security issue aren’t 
> being delayed by that protocol work.
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>             A. Assumption (validated in v6ops at ietf81) is that v6ops would 
> be happy
>              to take the mitigation and implementation advice as an 
> informational document
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>             B. Assumption 2 a draft updating 4861 would be a standards track 
> document.
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>             C. Assumption 3, should harmonize with  
> draft-nordmark-6man-impatient-nud-00
> WEG] Agree with all 3 assumptions.
> Also, a comment on 7.1 – I think that this is roughly the right priority for 
> certain applications, but not necessarily for all cases. In networks where it 
> is more common for devices to be coming and going frequently, it may not be 
> as appropriate to deprioritize traffic to unknown addresses. It may be that 
> in a lot of those applications, DHCPv6 will be preferable to SLAAC, so this 
> may not be a huge issue, but worth considering in this section’s 
> recommendations, especially if 7.4 is now in a separate document.
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> Thanks
> Wes George
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