And then the next one, and the next one, until packet size is > 1280 and other 
horror stories begin :-O

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Wuyts Carl
> Sent: jeudi 22 décembre 2011 08:19
> To: Hing-Kam (Kam) Lam; Samita Chakrabarti
> Cc: 6man Mailing List
> Subject: RE: IPv6 Router Advertisement Option for NTP Server Configuration
> 
> I agree that one could benefit in some cases from NTP through RA's, however
> I don't see any info on "cooperation" between DHCPv6 and RA in your draft,
> i.e. what is you get your NTP through both channels (both RA and DHCPv6) ?
> What if content is different on these 2 channels ?  What if (if received on
> both channels) the content of one of them is not available anymore at some
> point in time ? ...,
> Apart from that, we now have DNS support in RA, you're adding NTP, what's
> next ... ?  If more info gets sent through RA, more clashes are possible in
> case the info is also present though DHCPv6, hence the more complex it'll
> get letting them work together.
> 
> 
> regs
> 
> Carl Wuyts
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Hing-Kam (Kam) Lam
> Sent: donderdag 22 december 2011 2:15
> To: Samita Chakrabarti
> Cc: 6man Mailing List
> Subject: Re: IPv6 Router Advertisement Option for NTP Server Configuration
> 
> Yes, i agree with Manav and Samita. There are networks where SLAAC is
> essential and NTP being a core component, must get extended.
> 
> Kam
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Samita Chakrabarti
> <samita.chakraba...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >
> > Agree with Manav on the usecases.
> >
> > Adhoc type of networks, m2m IoT networks and some home networks benefit
> from SLAAC where DHCP Service may not make sense or may be an overhead to
> maintain.
> >
> > -Samita
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
> > Of Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:52 PM
> > To: Doug Barton
> > Cc: 6man Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: IPv6 Router Advertisement Option for NTP Server
> > Configuration
> >
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> >>
> >> Sort of surprised that no one else has responded so far, but I'll
> >> bite.
> >> Quite simply, "no." Slightly less simply, "use DHCP since that's what
> >> it's for."
> >>
> >
> > I wish it were this simple.
> >
> > Different operators have different requirements and preferences based on
> their environments. I have seen deployments where SLAAC is much more useful
> than DHCPv6. I've seen deployments where DHCPv6 is needed. So both have a
> place and we should let the operators decide what they want to use.
> Environments with 4 to 20 devices in them (small businesses) may not want
> the complexity of setting up a central server. Those environments are
> probably more suited for SLAAC.
> >
> > We have heard customers asking SLAAC to be extended to support NTP, "boot-
> file", "next-server" and a few other things that are currently only
> available with DHCP.
> >
> > Currently, operators need to use both SLAAC and DHCP to run their
> networks. This is far from ideal. Far better for organizations to look at 2
> complete solutions and pick the solution that works best for them in their
> environment.
> >
> > Today, we can get NTP server information only with DHCP. DHCP only works
> after RAs have been processed. In some environments (mobile IPv6) delays in
> acquiring NTP and other servers information is critical and waiting for DHCP
> to come up is NOT an ideal solution.
> >
> > Cheers, Manav
> >
> >
> >
> >
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