Le 22/10/2012 18:58, Alexandru Petrescu a écrit :
Le 21/10/2012 23:45, Mark Smith a écrit :




----- Original Message -----
From: Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petre...@gmail.com> To:
sth...@nethelp.no Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2012
4:56 AM Subject: Re: Announcing Prefix Delegation extensions to
ND draft-kaiser-nd-pd-00.txt

Le 20/10/2012 18:36, sth...@nethelp.no a écrit :
There is also the question of availability of DHCP software
on smaller platforms which have no SIM card.  It may be
easier to do this with ND in smaller settings.

The obvious conclusion to this argument is that a *lot* of
DHCP functionality will be duplicated in ND. Is this where we
want to go?

I guess yes, and vice-versa.

I'm coming from the DHCP side of the argument. In my world DHCP
is needed because it gives you a single place to handle dynamic
address allocation, *and* it ties in with all sorts of support
& backend systems.

Well yes, when that backend is a fixed infrastructure with
things planned, highly human assisted.  But in a dynamic yet
simple network (without assistance of various backend) it's hard
to use DHCP: a Relay can't 'discover' a Server,


Actually it can, as the destination address for the server the
relay uses can be the all-dhcp-serviers site-local
(FF05:0:0:0:0:0:1:3) multicast address. DHCPv6 uses multicast
addresses where ever possible for these sorts of scenario.

But isn't it that the DHCPv6 server must have a conf file which
records in a fixed way the Relay's IP address?

I just learn from a collegue that the Server may not all implementations
need to hardcode the Relay's IP address at the Server - the Server would
simply Reply to the src address of the incoming Request.

Which could be fine in many cases.  But I doubt a Server in a cellular
operator would allow any Relay owning a SIM card to connect to it.

Alex


Alex

Geographically distributed DHCPv6 servers can then be
a member of a multicast that spans locations across the network.


RFC3315, 5.1. Multicast Addresses

DHCP makes use of the following multicast addresses:

All_DHCP_Relay_Agents_and_Servers (FF02::1:2) A link-scoped
multicast address used by a client to communicate with neighboring
(i.e., on-link) relay agents and servers. All servers and relay
agents are members of this multicast group.

All_DHCP_Servers (FF05::1:3) A site-scoped multicast address used
by a relay agent to communicate with servers, either because the
relay agent wants to send messages to all servers or because it
does not know the unicast addresses of the servers.  Note that in
order for a relay agent to use this address, it must have an
address of sufficient scope to be reachable by the servers.  All
servers within the site are members of this multicast group.





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