I know another NetBeans user who wants off-white / light grey rather 
than white backgrounds.

He uses the jvi plug-in and uses a light grey background for it, but the 
rest of the panels are not so easily changed, which is a source of 
annoyance for him.

--
Jess Holle

??(milan) wrote:
> yes you got a point, my list is not sorted by relevance, just thoughts
> popped out in my mind (and yes, they are very subjective complaints ;)
> (I don't want to flame here, I just thought, it would be ok to write
> opinion from another side - I don't have to praise nb, or do I?)
>
> when it takes to look and feel, I think it's quite important, I
> usually set fonts a little bit bigger, I don't use default fonts on my
> system, I set set up background color in windows/editors to grey, I
> think white is too aggressive, if I could choose if would work with
> black green terminals(that's maybe why I love editing text files in vi
> and fancy console;)
>
> but netbeans sets all in it's way, white background, small (ugly)
> fonts, I probably would be equally productive with nb, if I got used
> to it - though, after 5 months I haven't ;(
>
> why should I spend time  with look and feel on my system, when I have
> to change it every app. it decides to have it its own way?
>
> On Nov 12, 7:41 pm, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> John Nilsson wrote:
>>     
>>> Your points are probably valid and there might be a chance to have
>>> them addressed if you for each point you stated suggest a concrete
>>> change.
>>>       
>>> As it is written now you mainly stated your emotional response with
>>> little description of the underlying cause or how to make it better.
>>>       
>>>     6. I lacked(maybe it exists but I didn't find it) functionality, where
>>>     you can navigate to file in project explorer from source editor. When
>>>     you have 20 files open from different packages and from different
>>>     projects, it is easily to get lost.
>>>       
>> This functionality certainly exists.  Right mouse -> Select In ->
>> Projects [Ctrl-Shift-1]
>>
>> My favorite complaint has to be #1, the "does not have native look and
>> feel", though.
>>
>> I personally /really /dislike the curvy tabs in Eclipse and various
>> look-and-feel choices around them, but overall unless the UI has
>> something fundamentally wrong (e.g. giant buttons that gobble all my
>> screen real estate or utterly confusing dialogs or UI feedback) I have
>> never seen the point in getting so up-tight about look-and-feel, font
>> smoothing, etc.  Barring such fundamental errors, this stuff is utterly
>> subjective and should be utterly irrelevant if the tool does the job.
>> If two tools do the job equally well, then sure pick the one that suits
>> your look-and-feel fancy (but be ready to switch to another tool to work
>> more closely with those who feel differently).  If not, then focus on
>> how the tools do the job and forget this irrelevant, subjective cruft.
>>
>> --
>> Jess Holle
>>
>> P.S. I did loads of development on green or orange screened dumb
>> terminals in college.  By comparison to this modern IDEs and modern
>> screen sizes are a miraculous improvement and thus I generally can't
>> complain about them on the basis of look-and-feel.  Those who gripe
>> about today's IDE's look-and-feels as really impacting their
>> productivity or happiness are thus ninnies in my book :-)
>>     
> >
>
>   


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