Yeah I just read the PDF they posted, and one thing struck me:

"Google’s Android competes with Oracle America’s Java as an operating
system
 software platform for cellular telephones and other mobile devices."

If this had been Apple then ok, possibly even if it had been Microsoft
but... how is Oracle competing with Google? The practicals of the JME
profile vs. the Android profile are decades apart. They might have
wanted to or had the illusion they were, but Sun was definitely NOT
competing in any meaning way of the term!

/Casper

On Aug 15, 8:18 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <reini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Groklaw's post on this is up, and they'll continue coverage too. Joy!
>
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100813112425821
>
> On Aug 15, 6:32 pm, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > don't forget about loss of opportunity..
>
> > JD
>
> > On 8/15/10, BoD <b...@jraf.org> wrote:
>
> > > Actually, it's about patents *and* copyrights.
>
> > > BoD
>
> > > On Aug 15, 1:49 am, Christian Catchpole <christ...@catchpole.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >> Well, they aren't arguing trademark issues.  They are arguing
> > >> patents.  Compare the situation to the patent holders of MPEG codecs.
> > >> They don't want or encourage anyone to implement of of their "patents"
> > >> without license fees.  That's not what Sun did.
>
> > >> Android only ever said "Java source code".
>
> > >> On Aug 15, 9:43 am, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > FUnny..But the point is..
>
> > >> > Google is trying to sort of use GWT as a kind of JRE or mybe JDK
> > >> > technology..reshaping the package ,tweak it and then promote it
> > >> > in its own brand..oracle would hate this and of course larry can be
> > >> > assured to pounce on this..
> > >> > i m not surprised by these events - a little confused why OSS is being
> > >> > dragged into this..
>
> > >> > regards,
> > >> > jd
>
> > >> > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Christian Catchpole
>
> > >> > <christ...@catchpole.net> wrote:
> > >> > > Could you argue that Open Sourcing technology that is protected by
> > >> > > patents is a form of entrapment?  Sun did this, and Oracle may not
> > >> > > have done the same but that's what they purchased.
>
> > >> > > "Your Honour. We attempted to protect our patent by encourage people
> > >> > > to download the source, modify it and redistribute it.  How were we
> > >> > > expected to know they might actually do it?"
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