... but at the same time, AFAIK, only the JCP can vet and greenlight an umbrella JSR, and that's the only way anything can legally be called java7?
On Aug 15, 11:47 am, JodaStephen <scolebou...@joda.org> wrote: > A couple of factual JCP points in response to the original post. > > 1) The Sun and Oracle posts on the JCP combined with the merger. > Oracle doesn't have two seats. (This occurred previously when they > bought BEA). > 2) The JCP is simply a process administered by a department of Oracle. > Oracle can dissolve the department at any time, effectively dissolving > "the JCP". > 3) The JCP legal agreement (JSPA) may be terminated with 60 days > notice. > > Stephen > > On Aug 15, 10:03 am, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Count me in as commenter of things I don't always fully understand, > > but hey, that's what forums are for no? :) > > > Interesting Fabrizio, you've now effectively mapped the problem into > > the classic is-a vs. has-an debate. So if Google had based Android on > > a derived OpenJDK (is-an), they would've gotten protection from > > patents... and they would still be allowed to implement only a subset > > as long as they did not claim it was Java™. > > > So why didn't they? Google likely did not think HotSpot fit their > > hardware runtime profile, besides, the OpenJDK didn't actually exist > > when Android was born. In other words, Android could not succeed given > > these constraints. > > > Btw. the conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether Sun knew about > > Android and that's the reason why Sun would not want to grant Harmony > > status of Java™ (Google purchased Android in August 2005, the Apache > > Foundations problems with Sun started a year after around August > > 2006). > > > /Casper > > > On Aug 15, 10:08 am, Fabrizio Giudici <fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it> > > wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 8/15/10 09:37 , Christian Catchpole wrote: > > > > > Ok, I do admit I'v been making comments on things I have not fully > > > > researched or understood (thats how I roll baby). But, just the > > > > smell of this thing is making many of us hope the elevator stops > > > > soon. > > > > This is not a problem - I'm making comments on things that I'm not > > > fully understanding too :-) I hope that discussing we get to a stronger > > > knowledge. BTW, I'd like to know whether others agree on the contents > > > of my previous post. > > > > - -- > > > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > > > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > > > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people > > > fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxnoHkACgkQeDweFqgUGxduvACfZyL7TG0Db9qriNECRaVc15A9 > > > FOMAniAYEfeCiBGnyEXwp+tGGLmwe6md > > > =Ya9P > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.