HI Kimmie;

No, you are not sounding " a little thick ."  If you don't ask the 
questions, you won't get any answers.  For example;  If i am wanting to make 
a message rule for the Jaws-Users list, I would check the " subject " box in 
step #6 of the steps and, Jaws-Users information that is in all the subject 
lines of messages that come to this particular list.  The info you would use 
for this list is "
[JAWS-Users] ", read what is between the quotes character by character to 
get an idea of what I'm suggesting.  This particular info would be entered 
in step 11 of the steps.



Now, if you are wanting to use the info in the " from " field, you would 
check the " from " box in step #6.  Then in step #9 you would arrow down to 
" Where the the from line contains people " or something like that and press 
enter.



Making these rules depends on what criteria you are using, from what field / 
header in the email.  Making these can be a major pain in the you know where 
and they can be veryy confusing.  I started seeing Dr. Phil long before I 
got to message rules but, message rules took my temporary treatment into 
eternal treatment!  LOL



I hope this has helped to explain things a little better to some degree and 
didn't confuse the hell out of you even further.  LOL



Take care.

Mike







  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kimber
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 4:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MESSAGE RULES


  hi there.  Sorry to come back again, but I must be a little thick here. 
What do you mean put the name of the subject line in the email?
  it's just that not all my emails have proper subject lines in them.  They 
might have the name of an artist, or something like that. Sorryif I sound a 
little thick. Kimmie.----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69ma...@charter.net>
  To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MESSAGE RULES


  > Hi Kimber;
  >
  > Below are the steps for making message rules.  Pay close attention to 
step
  > #5, about your issue  for a " new " message.
  >
  > Making Message Rules
  >
  >
  >
  > Making Folder Rules in OE
  >
  >
  >
  > OE 5-6 Message Rules Setup
  >
  >
  >
  > This particular instance wil automatically tell Outlook Express to place 
all
  > emails from (what you set up) into your new folder that you made.
  >
  >
  >
  > 1 make sure you have a folder in your OE list of folders called(x) the 
name
  > of your folder that you want all your emails to go into.
  >
  >
  >
  > Here we go.
  >
  >
  >
  > 2. While in OE 5 / 6, hit alt T to take you to the Tools menu.
  >
  >
  >
  > 3. press r to take you to message rules
  >
  >
  >
  > 4. press the letter M for Mail.
  >
  >
  >
  > 5. Press Tab one time for New and press enter.
  >
  >
  >
  > 6. Arrow down untill you hear  where subject line contains specific 
words
  > and
  >
  >
  >
  > Press the spacebar one time
  >
  >
  >
  > 7. Now tab once to Actions list. You will see or hear"Move it to the
  > specified folder." Again, press the space bar one time.
  >
  >
  >
  > 8. Now tab once until you see or hear Name of the rule. section 3 New 
mail
  > rule
  >
  >
  >
  > 9. arrow down to (where the subject line contains specific words)
  >
  >
  >
  > 10. press enter
  >
  >
  >
  > 11. type in exactly what is on the subject line of the email
  >
  >
  >
  > 12. tab to add and press spacebar
  >
  >
  >
  > 13. arrow down until you hear the name of the subject line you put in
  >
  >
  >
  > 14. tab to ok press spacebar
  >
  >
  >
  > 15. Down arrow one time to move it to specified folder, press enter
  >
  >
  >
  > 16. Now you will up or down arrow until you hear the name of your folder
  > spoken(to what ever you named your folder in the inbox).
  >
  >
  >
  > 17. Tab over to Ok and hit enter. You will be taken back to the mail 
rules
  > page.
  >
  >
  >
  > 18. tab to section 4
  >
  > Press the backspace key to remove/delete (New Mail Rule #1) and then 
type in
  > the name you want showing in the message rules list.
  >
  >
  >
  > 19. tab to ok press spacebar
  >
  >
  >
  > 20. Tab to Apply Now and hit enter.
  >
  >
  >
  > 21. This step I'm not certain of.  You may be able to tab past this and 
go
  > on to the next step.  Another screen here and you should tab to Select 
all
  > button
  >
  > and press space bar
  >
  >
  >
  > 22. Tab until you see or hear Apply to Folder.... Inbox. Hit enter.
  >
  >
  >
  > 23. You will be given a message that your rules have been applied. Hit
  > enter.
  >
  >
  >
  > 24. Tab to close and press enter
  >
  >
  >
  > 25. You are now in the mail rules page again and you should tab to OK 
and
  > hit enter.
  >
  >
  >
  >> you are now finished.
  >
  >
  >
  > Removing or Modifying Message Rules
  >
  >
  >
  > if you do the following;
  >
  >
  >
  > 1. alt+t=tools;
  >
  >
  >
  > 2. R=message rules/mail,enter;
  >
  >
  >
  > 3. now, you can arrow down, to see if there is a message rule created,
  >
  > then? once you highlight the message rule, "BlindAccessHelp" you can tab
  >
  > over, to modify, press enter. now, you can go through the steps, and see
  >
  > where you went wrong, or, just advance your way through the create 
message
  >
  > filter,/steps, and see if you can't fix the problem.
  >
  >
  >
  > otherwise? while in the message rules list, once you highlight the
  >
  > "BAH/message/rule", you could tab to remove, press enter, then, then 
apply,
  >
  > and ok, your way out.
  >
  >
  >
  > then, you could start fresh.
  >
  >
  >
  > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Message rules question
  >
  >
  >
  > Something to keep in mind when it comes to message rules in OE.  Even
  >
  > though Jaws might read the subject line like a sentence from left to
  >
  > right, they are actually headings to columns.
  >
  > For this group, I went into the message rules and in the first section,
  >
  > you have 12 choices.  I chose the 3rd one down.  "Where the message body
  >
  > contains specific words."  Then when you have to fill in that field, I
  >
  > just put,
  >
  > <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  >
  > Then every time a message from this group comes in, it sees that rule
  >
  > and moves the messages to their proper folder.
  >
  > Sometimes you have to play with different settings to find the one that
  >
  > works.  I've been setting up message rules in OE for several years.
  >
  > After you do it a few times, you get the hang of it.
  >
  > Jack
  >
  >
  >
  > Hi, Mike.  Here are the steps someone on the blind access help group 
gave
  > me.  I hope they'll be helpful to you too.
  >
  > Rosemarie
  >
  > Creating Message Rules in Outlook Express
  >
  > 1. In inbox, hit alt T for tools.
  >
  > 2. Hit R for rules.
  >
  > 3. Hit enter or the letter M for mail. You'll come to the message rules
  > page.
  >
  > 4. Arrow down to where it says "where the to or CC fieled contains 
people"
  > and check it with space bar.
  >
  > 5. Tab once to the "move to specified folder" and check with space bar.
  >
  > 6. Tab twice until you hear rule description. Type in the email address 
of
  > the list you're on.
  >
  > 7. Shift-tab once and you'll hear "where the to or CC field contains 
people
  > contains people" and press enter.
  >
  > 8. Type in the email address of the list and tab to add. Press space bar 
or
  > enter on it.
  >
  > 9. Arrow down to the email address and press enter.
  >
  > 10. Arrow down to where it says "move it to the specified folder 
specified"
  > and hit enter.
  >
  > 11. Arrow down to the folder you want and hit enter.
  >
  > 12. Arrow to the folder you want, tab to ok and hit either space bar or
  > enter.
  >
  > 13. Tab to apply and hit space bar.
  >
  > 14. Tab to select all and hit space bar or enter.
  >
  > 15. Tab to apply now button and hit either enter or space bar.
  >
  > 16. Hit enter on ok button.
  >
  > 17. Tab to close and hit space bar or enter.
  >
  > 18. Tab to ok and hit enter or space bar. You're done!
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: kimber
  >  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  >  Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 9:13 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MESSAGE RULES
  >
  >
  >  hi there.  This is a message from awhile ago, and I'm trying to work it
  > out, but somehow I can't seem to get passed putting the name of the 
message
  > rule.  It also doesn't give me the option for new as stated in your 
message.
  > Thanks your help would be appreciated.
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69ma...@charter.net>
  >  To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
  >  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:12 AM
  >  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MESSAGE RULES
  >
  >
  >  > Hi Josh & Wayne;
  >  >
  >  > These are for Outlook Express and I don't know if they work for 
Window's
  >  > Mail.  When making a message rule and you choose rule 6, subject
  > contains
  >  > specific words, what you type in rules 9 thru 11 must be exactly as 
they
  >  > appear in the emails you receive.  Meaning if there are brackets,
  > spaces,
  >  > some letters capitalized and some not, the entry has to be exact as 
the
  >  > email subject line.  For example;   [JAWS-Users]  is exactly the way 
it
  >  > should look when inserting in rules 9 thru 11 if the message rule is 
for
  >  > Jaws-Users.
  >  > Making Message Rules
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > This particular instance wil automatically tell Outlook Express to 
place
  > all
  >  > emails from (what you set up) into your new folder that you made.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 1 make sure you have a folder in your OE list of folders called(x) 
the
  > name
  >  > of your folder that you want all your emails to go into.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > Here we go.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 2. While in OE, hit alt T to take you to the Tools menu.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 3. press r to take you to message rules
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 4. press the letter M for Mail.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 5. Press Tab one time for New and press enter.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 6. Arrow down untill you hear  where subject line contains specific
  > words
  >  > and
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > Press the spacebar one time
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 7. Now tab once to Actions list. You will see or hear"Move it to the
  >  > specified folder." Again, press the space bar one time.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 8. Now tab once until you see or hear Name of the rule. section 3 New
  > mail
  >  > rule
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 9. arrow down to (where the subject line contains specific words)
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 10. press enter
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 11. type in exactly what is on the subject line of the email
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 12. tab to add and press spacebar
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 13. arrow down until you hear the name of the subject line you put in
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 14. tab to ok press spacebar
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 15. Down arrow one time to move it to specified folder, press enter
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 16. Now you will up or down arrow until you hear the name of your 
folder
  >  > spoken(to what ever you named your folder in the inbox).
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 17. Tab over to Ok and hit enter. You will be taken back to the mail
  > rules
  >  > page.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 18. tab to section 4
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > Press the delete key on (New Mail Rule #1) and then type in the name 
you
  >  > want showing in the message rules list.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 19. tab to ok press spacebar
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 20. Tab to Apply Now and hit enter.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 21. This step I'm not certain of.  You may be able to tab past this 
and
  > go
  >  > on to the next step.  Another screen here and you should tab to 
Select
  > all
  >  > button
  >  >
  >  > and press space bar
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 22. Tab until you see or hear Apply to Folder.... Inbox. Hit enter.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 23. You will be given a message that your rules have been applied. 
Hit
  >  > enter.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 24. Tab to close and press enter
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > 25. You are now in the mail rules page again and you should tab to OK
  > and
  >  > hit enter.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >> you are now finished.  Hope this has helped.  Take care.
  >  >
  >  > Mike
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  >
  >  > From: "Josh" <lawdog...@comcast.net>
  >  > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
  >  > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:23 AM
  >  > Subject: [JAWS-Users] MESSAGE RULES
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > JAWS Users,
  >  > I use O.E. and I am having trouble setting up a message rule that 
works
  > all
  >  > the time. I can set one up and it will move the messages that are
  > currently
  >  > in my inbox but after that they continue to come to my inbox rather 
than
  > the
  >  > folder that has been assigned. I go back into message rules to see 
about
  >  > editing the message rule but it says there is no message rule. I know 
I
  > will
  >  > be directed to the groups page but I cannot access the page as I do 
not
  > know
  >  > my password and when requesting my password I never recieve it. Can
  > someone
  >  > help me out with either accessing the groups page or setting up the
  > message
  >  > rule I am forgetting a step or something because initially it works 
as
  > it
  >  > should. Thanks for any help offered. I use JAWS 10 shoudl you need 
this
  >  > information
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