> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter F. Spicer
> Sent: 07 February 2001 16:11
> To: jBoss Developer
> Subject: RE: [jBoss-Dev] Sun ONE response to MS
>
>
> Microsoft is doing some interesting things with the .NET platform, some of
> which (actually a large part of which) is based on the precepts of the EJB
> architecture ('attribute' based programming and the like). As far as
> competition is concerned they are talented and aggressive. The
> responses in
> the link are good - but this guy is light weight so no victories gained.
Ahem. MTS predates EJB by a good few years. Attribute based development
didn't start with EJB.
We shouldn't begin to cloud the facts like those marketing clowns [on both
sides] in the articles.
> The bigger issue for the Java community is will it survive? -
> looks like it
> will right now, but it is 'closed', Sun has control and MS is putting
> together frameworks which allow the ingest and conversion of Java
> technologies to their platform (COM+). Once this is complete,
> the millions
> of windows folks will not need to switch - which is OK. BUT, market
> pressures may force us to switch. Hence MS does the usual
> end-run (Browser,
> OpenGL, ....). Sun should let go or at least modify their
> current strategy
> v. Linux and Java.
>
> BTW, check out the unification of the object models across all languages
> (and extension to same) on the .NET platform - a slick piece of software
> engineering.
Yep. Slick. I second that.
> Sun BTW is also wrong about the relationship of software to
> hardware - just
> because the interconnects become transparent does not change the
> fundamental
> equation.
>
> -- Peter
And the answer to Open standards and language-neutrality (Q8 & Q9) is
downright laughable too. At least I thought it was ;-)
Micheal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rickard Öberg
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:38 AM
> To: jBoss Developer
> Subject: [jBoss-Dev] Sun ONE response to MS
>
>
> Hey
>
> In case you haven't seen this:
> http://www.sun.com/dot-com/realitycheck/headsup010205.html
>
> "So.. do you feel lucky.. punk!" "Kablaaam"
>
> Well.. uhm.. I thought it was funny anyway :-)
>
> regards,
> Rickard
>
> --
> Rickard Öberg
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
