In my 11 year career I have yet to be on a software project that had complete, simple, up-to-date documentation on the overall design of the system. If you're a "very talented coder", then you're just being lazy. Andreas is right, newbies need to show initiative.
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > micael > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 2:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Recruiting new developers > > > I think that sometimes people do not see the effort a newbie has put into > something, because putting yourself into their place is also > difficult, and > is not so urgent, i.e. their pain is not your pain. I paid to get > documentation that turned out to be a work in progress and have never > really gotten value for the money. Maybe that has now changed. The site > sure looks better. I downloaded the 3.0 start kit and will see. > But, I am > not putting in more money until I make sure I am getting something > back. The sad thing is that I am a very talented coder who would love to > be involved with coding on JBoss. Well, not that sad. I need to get a > grip here. ///;-) Thanks for taking the time, Andreas. > > At 04:36 PM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi > > > >Everyone is welcomed to write docu but only a few did so. I know to > >start with JBoss is difficult but I don't think that people don't welcome > >beginners (see the JBoss forum, the new JBoss 3.0 docu etc.) but user > >questions are not welcomed on the developer list (that is why it is a > >developer list). > > > >The only important step I expect for a newcomer is to show initiative. > >I hate questions like "please help I don't understand this" but I help if > >someone is coming with a questions that shows initiative. So first search > >on the JBoss forum (maybe the questions is already solved), then check > >the docu and finally go to the forum. > > > > > Another (additional) way would be to provide snappy and easy to read > > > introductions to the basic code layout in JBoss. I am a Java > Certified > > > Programmer, so I know a little about Java, and I have coded many large > > > sites, but know little about JBoss. I came here to learn > about a year ago > > > but left, not feeling welcome. Not crying, just letting you > know. I have > > > a big interest in JBoss and am a real fan, but do not have > time to climb > > > uphill to learn with you. Hasta la differences? > > > >Have fun > > > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Andreas Schaefer > >Senior Consultant > >JBoss Group, LLC > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > >for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > >http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 > >_______________________________________________ > >Jboss-development mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 > _______________________________________________ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
