Let me give you my example of why I want it.

I worked over the trunk invoker so it would do distributed transactions. 
This requires at least a source of xid's on the calling side, and
preferably a TransactionManager.  Well, they are already there if the
calling side is a jboss instance.  If it's a client, the only way you will
be propagating  a transaction is if you have a UserTransaction.  So, I'd
like to implement the client-side UserTransaction to use the same
mechanism, based on at least an XidFactory and perhaps a
TransactionManager.  These are pretty much dependent on the jmx framework. 
If the jmx framework is on the client, I just register the mbeans and I'm
done.  If not, I have to rewrite a bunch of the code to be independent of
the jmx framework.  Incidently, I think the client end of the trunk invoker
would also be simpler if it were an mbean: in fact I think there could be a
lot more code sharing between the two ends.

david jencks



On 2002.11.10 23:25:50 -0500 Hiram Chirino wrote:
> >
> > Hiram, I think you missed the point.  Of course we could do this with
> > out requiring JMX; anything is possible.  The point is if we agree that
> > JMX is always on the client side then entire system is simplified.
> >
> 
> I guess the disconnect is happening right here.  IMO JMX does not always
> make things easier.  What do you think JMX provides that would simplify
> "the
> entire system"?  Is it:
> (1) Runtime server administration
> (2) Service creation/configuration/lookup.
> 
> Even though those are super important on the server side, I just don't
> see
> how important those would be on the client side.  Am I missing something
> else?
> 
> Regards,
> Hiram
> 
> 
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