I've been following this thread with interest. I think this is a good idea. I do think we should build on top of the Jakarta Commons project though. They have some really great stuff over there. It's aimed at the web tier more than anything, but they have developed a lot of generic utils that can be reused.
Secondly I think the easiest way to show off JBoss while allowing users to use the components in other app servers is to use XDoclet. We can distribute components as jars for JBoss and then provide instructions for building the deploy-descriptors, etc. for other app servers. Another idea is to make the components full JavaBeans, with BeanInfo classes. This will provide the ease of use that commercial component developers provide and lower the bar for developers to be productive with JBoss. I also think it would be cool to integrate lucene (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene) as an MBean service. I think that adding services like this to JBoss is something that us 'users' can do without the need for the knowledge and experience with JBoss internals that the core developers have. If we can add more of these services to JBoss, then provide components that make them easy to use, I think we will win a lot of users. Personally, I think we should polish the existing OSS beans for JBoss and host them on a JBoss site. One, more long term project that I think would win more hearts and minds in the OSS world would be to add CORBA configuration capabilities to standard daemons like PostgreSQL, OpenLDAP, CyrusIMAP, Sendmail and then write an MBean that controlled the configuration and state of each for JBoss. We could extend the JMX spine to capture more of the traditional OSS daemon world. I think having a nice frontend to managing these services (like MS's MMC) and better API integration for Java, would make JBoss a lot more valuble to the traditional admin type developers (you know, the ones who think Perl rules and Java is slow). OK, enough babeling for me, I've got to get back on my meds ;-). Wish I had time to contribute more to this, I'm still trying to keep up with changes in XDoclet and jbosscmp-jdbc.xml, Alex keeps changing the unknown-pk stuff every week ;-) Curt Johnson Chris Snow wrote: >Instead of a library of components, what about a library of 'links' to >components, such as in projects like ofbiz (www.ofbiz.org)? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alex Loubyansky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 27 September 2002 12:15 >To: rahul ganjoo >Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-user] JBOSS - Components library > > >rg> not sure if it will increase the usage of jboss.... >rg> developers on any app server can use these EJB components. > >it can save some time to develop everything from scratch. >I think, maturing such components will end up in a separate open >sourse projects, e.g. cms, banking, accounting ... > >rg> great idea though.... > >agree > >alex > >rg> wonder sonic wrote: > >>>This looks great :) >>>Moreover, adding such components would greatly improve >>>JBoss usage. I wonder if other Application server do >>>the same? >>> >>>Any comment from the JBoss Application server >>>developers? >>> >>> --- Randahl Fink Isaksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a >>>écrit : > Absolutely! Names like "UserEJB" or >>>"CounterEJB" are >>> >>>>probably found in >>>>many projects ejb-jar.xml, and in many projects they >>>>could probably be >>>>implemented by free components >>>>(org.jboss.user.LocalUserBean). >>>> >>>>I think it is a great idea, is anyone volunteering >>>>for hosting >>>>www.ejbs4jboss.org? >>>> >>>>- Or does the JBoss group wish to add a component >>>>submittal page at >>>>www.jboss.org? >>>> >>>>As an alternative, we could use an existing (EJB) >>>>component sharing >>>>forum - any suggestions? >>>> >>>> >>>>Randahl >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On >>>>Behalf Of Saroj Kumar >>>>Sent: 27. september 2002 10:39 >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS - Components library >>>> >>>>Hi Wonder Sonic, >>>> >>>>Yeah, this seems to be a good idea. >>>> >>>>Certainly it can be done. >>>> >>>>Let us discuss it in depth. >>>> >>>>Q- >>>>1) What kind of components are u thinking about? >>>>2) Which domain they work in? >>>> >>>>-Saroj >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On >>>>Behalf Of wonder >>>>sonic >>>>Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:51 PM >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Subject: [JBoss-user] JBOSS - Components library >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>>I was wondering: >>>>-1- JBoss seems to be free >>>>-2- JBoss seems to be the most downloaded >>>>Application >>>>Server >>>>-3- JBoss seems to be the most used by developpers >>>>-4- A part of these developpers seems to be involved >>>>in >>>>the development of the open source community >>>>-5- These developers develop things, particularly >>>>EJBs... >>>> >>>>So, according to the number of developers. How many >>>>of >>>>them have RE-developed an EJB? >>>> >>>>My question is: How about add to JBoss a Components >>>>library (ie: a set of EJBs) that could be reused by >>>>others? Imagine the time spent to RE-develop the >>>>same >>>>things each time... >>>> >>>>Waiting for replies... :) >>>> >>>>Best regards to the JBoss and the Open Source >>>>community, >>>>Wonder Sonic >>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
