On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:32:17PM -0600, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > Jim, > > How do you think we test JBoss? Take a look at the CMP tests in the > testsuite. We have an addon to JUnit that can deploy and undeploy > applications. Also we have a tool that can run the tests on the server > side like (I wrote this to test local interfaces), but does not require > a servlet tier. > > -dain
The only reason I can find to use this junitee is testing localinterfaces and to solve the problem with security. There is a difference regarding security because you can specify a run-as parameter for web-apps but not for clients (like a junit-client), AFAIK. Is there any easy way to do this (other than logging in with a real user)? > > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 02:23 PM, Jim Crossley wrote: > > > These are good points, and I appreciate yours and others' prompt > > replies. However, the solutions presented so far seem to force me to > > complicate my object model to facilitate testing. > > > > I agree that an app that is difficult to test probably suffers from > > poor design, but web apps by their very nature are difficult to test. > > > > The app I'm currently working on is very CRUD-ish; it does simple > > read/write maintenance on a bunch of related objects. I don't want > > the web tier to access the Entity beans directly -- this would violate > > the transactional requirements -- so they go through a Session Facade. > > Creating additional POJO's through which the session beans interact > > with the entities only adds an unnecessary layer of complexity IMHO. > > > > The app is currently implemented using OJB, and I'm interested in > > refactoring it to use CMP EJB's, which IMHO are much easier to create > > and maintain (with Xdoclet, of course) than OJB. > > > > The big benefit of using OJB, however, is that a user can easily test > > the entire app from end-to-end without deploying or even interacting > > with an external resource. This is possible with Hypersonic's > > in-memory database. It got me thinking that an in-memory EJB > > container would be just as cool. > > > > JBoss is architected so well that I figured there must be a way to do > > it. I'm currently trying to add enough stuff to the minimal > > configuration to support the deployment of EJB's, and then I'll see if > > it's not possible to invoke that configuration from the setup of my > > JUnit test runner. > > > > Does anyone else think this is possible or even worth pursuing? > > > > -- Jim > > > > Demyanovich, Craig - Apogent wrote: > >> Jim, > >> I currently do not unit test either Entity or Session Beans. Entity > >> Beans > >> are trivial to write, and I trust that the application server will > >> persist > >> them as advertised. To unit test Session Beans would require that > >> they be > >> deployed. Since deployment complicates unit testing and complicated > >> or > >> difficult unit tests suggest that the design could be done > >> differently/better, I design Session Beans to be controllers of a > >> number of > >> collaborating objects. These objects are simply business objects that > >> encode the business logic of the system. Since they are plain Java > >> classes, > >> I can unit test them very easily. > >> Consider a message-driven bean. As I generally design them, MDBs > >> receive a > >> message, hand it to a parser, hand the results of parsing to other > >> objects > >> that do something with the message contents, hand the results of that > >> work > >> to a communictator, which knows how to send the final results where > >> they > >> need to go. So, I don't test any part of the MDB; rather, I test the > >> various collaborating business objects. If I'm confident that they > >> all > >> behave as expected, I'm confident that they will also do so when they > >> interact via one another's interface. > >> Hope that helps, > >> Craig > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > >> Welcome to geek heaven. > >> http://thinkgeek.com/sf > >> _______________________________________________ > >> JBoss-user mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by: > > With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility Learn to use your power > > at OSDN's High Performance Computing Channel > > http://hpc.devchannel.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > JBoss-user mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: > With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility > Learn to use your power at OSDN's High Performance Computing Channel > http://hpc.devchannel.org/ > _______________________________________________ > JBoss-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -- MVH Marius Kotsbak Boost communications AS ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility Learn to use your power at OSDN's High Performance Computing Channel http://hpc.devchannel.org/ _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
