-dain
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 11:15 AM, Jim Crossley wrote:
Thanks, Dain. At first, I was encouraged by your reply, so I checked out the source, but it doesn't address my needs. At least, the branch I checked out (3.0 and jboss-head) could not run the testsuite successfully without first firing up JBoss.I want to be able to test my CMP's in an in-memory, lightweight EJB container that I can somehow quickly bootstrap from my JUnit testrunner. The CMP's would persist for the duration of the tests in the in-memory Hypersonic database. Perhaps EJB's are so resource intensive that something like this isn't feasible? -- Jim Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Jim, How do you think we test JBoss? Take a look at the CMP tests in the testsuite. We have an addon to JUnit that can deploy and undeploy applications. Also we have a tool that can run the tests on the server side like (I wrote this to test local interfaces), but does not require a servlet tier. -dain On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 02:23 PM, Jim Crossley wrote:These are good points, and I appreciate yours and others' prompt replies. However, the solutions presented so far seem to force me to complicate my object model to facilitate testing.I agree that an app that is difficult to test probably suffers from poor design, but web apps by their very nature are difficult to test.The app I'm currently working on is very CRUD-ish; it does simple read/write maintenance on a bunch of related objects. I don't want the web tier to access the Entity beans directly -- this would violate the transactional requirements -- so they go through a Session Facade. Creating additional POJO's through which the session beans interact with the entities only adds an unnecessary layer of complexity IMHO.The app is currently implemented using OJB, and I'm interested in refactoring it to use CMP EJB's, which IMHO are much easier to create and maintain (with Xdoclet, of course) than OJB.The big benefit of using OJB, however, is that a user can easily test the entire app from end-to-end without deploying or even interacting with an external resource. This is possible with Hypersonic's in-memory database. It got me thinking that an in-memory EJB container would be just as cool.JBoss is architected so well that I figured there must be a way to do it. I'm currently trying to add enough stuff to the minimal configuration to support the deployment of EJB's, and then I'll see if it's not possible to invoke that configuration from the setup of my JUnit test runner.Does anyone else think this is possible or even worth pursuing? -- Jim Demyanovich, Craig - Apogent wrote:Jim, I currently do not unit test either Entity or Session Beans. Entity Beansare trivial to write, and I trust that the application server will persistthem as advertised. To unit test Session Beans would require that they bedeployed. Since deployment complicates unit testing and complicated ordifficult unit tests suggest that the design could be done differently/better, I design Session Beans to be controllers of a number ofcollaborating objects. These objects are simply business objects that
encode the business logic of the system. Since they are plain Java
classes,
I can unit test them very easily. Consider a message-driven bean. As I generally design them, MDBs receive amessage, hand it to a parser, hand the results of parsing to other objectsthat do something with the message contents, hand the results of that workto a communictator, which knows how to send the final results where theyneed to go. So, I don't test any part of the MDB; rather, I test the
various collaborating business objects. If I'm confident that they
all
behave as expected, I'm confident that they will also do so when they
interact via one another's interface.
Hope that helps,
Craig
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