Right... but again, the best Swing guy I know writes all of his Swing code by hand anyway. So a chisel and stone - if it had a digital interface - would work well for him. I don't see why people think GENERATED code is always better than hand-written code, even when it comes to conservation of time. The time you'll spend tweaking the generated code would have been better spent writing better code in the first place... unless you're happy with subpar code. Something tells me, given the overall opinion that Swing's pretty but dumb and slow, that people aren't happy with generated Swing code... so why encourage more of the same crap?
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Dwan, James wrote: > I agree to a point Joseph but the original question was which ide would be > best for developing a swing application, not which is the best ide. I might > be wrong but if you design your dialogs with a chisel and stone, I don't > think it generates the swing code for you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 December 2002 10:40 > To: JDJList > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: Which IDE to use > > > Bah, editor discussions are so stupid. > > All of them. > > Even if you recommend IDEA or emacs, you're wrong. An editor is a personal > choice. If you're the kind of person who wants to write code, you can do > so with a chisel and a stone tablet. If you're the kind of moron who needs > code written for you, JBuilder's easy to find... and if JBuilder scares > you, there's netbeans, forte, sun forty-three-point-seven. If you're a > student, JCreator awaits to screw you up as much as it can. > > Face it, you can recommend editors all you like, but it's a preferential > thing, like saying "Green is the best colour." (By the way, green IS the > best colour.) What needs to happen is for someone to make a bullet-list of > features, with comments on features. The danger of bullet lists, of > course, is that they encourage featuritis on the part of the editor > authors. ("Now slices! And dices! Does Netbeans do this yet? We think > not! ... and if you know anything about advertising, we just said Netbeans > was better than us. Oops.") > > Ah, to have a world where idiots were muted... > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://enigmastation.com IT Consultant > > ____________________________________________________ > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying > ____________________________________________________ > > > ======================================================================= > Information in this email and any attachments are confidential, and may > not be copied or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor disclosed > to any third party without our permission. There is no intention to > create any legally binding contract or other commitment through the use > of this email. > > Experian Limited (registration number 653331). > Registered office: Talbot House, Talbot Street, Nottingham NG1 5HF > > ____________________________________________________ > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying > ____________________________________________________ > --------------------------------------------------------- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.com IT Consultant ____________________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying ____________________________________________________
