Hi Bill.
If you have purchased Dectalk Access 32 from HJ and you are using both
JFW and Window-eyes. Then the Dectalk Access 32 software should work
in both screen readers because the DECTalk Access 32 software should
search for the JFW authorisation key.
If anyone on the list does have this combination, how about trying it
and letting us all know.
Cheers
Sean.
>>> bill cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 25/January/1999 11:36am >>>
derrick are you sure that this will work, i was under the impression
that what
you are saying is true, but, and the but is a big one.
if the jfw key is still present wimdow eyes should be able to use
the access
32 that hj is selling in theory, but, to do so modifications to window
eyes
need to be maid to use it.
or modifications to open book ect ect ect.
so basicly what you say and what hj says are accurate, only in
reality why
would window eyes want to go to that hassle when they support the
regular
standard.
so derrick if you have gotten this to work please let me know.
comments from g w micro on a taped magazine seem to indicate that
window eyes
will not work with access 32 from hj.
any clarification is helpful.
thanks in advance.
At 04:14 PM 1/23/99 -0800, you wrote:
>That is not exactly the case. There are two versions of Access32- the
>stand alone version and the proprietary version that is tied to a
>particular screen reader like JFW. Both are capable of working with
any
>screen reader that supports soft synths.
>
>The stand alone version has its own authorization key and is able to
run
>independently of whatever screen reader you may use.
>
>The proprietary version does not have its own key. Instead it uses
the
>screen reader's key to tell it to run. This means that if you want
to
>use the proprietary version with another screen reader, you need to
>leave the authorization key of the original reader on the hard drive
in
>order to have the proprietary version of access32 work with the new
>reader.
>
>
>Derek Isobe
>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Web Page: http://home.istar.ca/~disobe
>
>
>Cathy wrote:
>>
>> Hello:
>> I just want to make sure I understand right. You can not buy the
soft ware
>> Dec-talk 32 from any body else except HJ, because it won't work if
jfw, is
>> that right. I was thinking about buying it from Ann Morris in a
couple of
>> months, you see she has it cheaper that HJ, and I was told not to
buy it
>> from HJ because then it won't work with any other screen reader
except jfw.
>> I am not trying to put HJ down, but if this is true, it really
isn't fare to
>> us, to have to just buy there product, if we can get the same thing
from so
>> other place but cheaper, with the same assurance of usage as what
they
>> offer. Also it should not be limited to just being used with jfw.
You see,
>> I didn't have choice about what screen reader I got, because it
was bought
>> for be by the state, and you take what they feel like you can use.
No, I am
>> not putting down jfw, I love it, and I don't think I would change
even if I
>> could.
>> Cathy and guide dog Tilly, Black Lab:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carol Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 1:01 PM
>> Subject: RE: Which internal synthesizer work well with Jfw? -Reply
>>
>> >Hi Bill,
>> >
>> >You're probably right, that some of the problems are video
related. The
>> >laptop is particularly slow and I did see an explanation of this
on the
>> >List a month or two back - can anyone remind me why video cards
are so slow
>> >on laptops - but on my desktop the cards are OK but Dectalk
Express is so
>> >much better.
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Carol
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >At 01:47 23/01/99 -0500, bill cameron wrote:
>> >>carol i am not takeing any shots at you, you are right, that is
why i
>> would
>> >>buy the double talk, hardware is better under 300 mhz.
>> >>
>> >>with that said be aware that while you have problems can you be
sure it
>> is
>> >>not video related?
>> >>
>> >>with respect to stability?
>> >>
>> >>those s t b cards seem to have more driver trouble than other
brands, and
>> >not
>> >>just for blind users either.
>> >>
>> >>their is a reason compaque and hp pick matrox, good drivers.
>> >>
>> >>if you lived on this side of the ocean i would give you a video
card.
>> >>
>> >>nobody deserves the trouble you had.
>> >>
>> >>bill cameron
>> >>
>> >>At 12:00 AM 1/23/99 +0000, you wrote:
>> >>>Hi Bill,
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks for your input on synths. However, by my experience, I
am not
>> >>>convinced that this is the case for all of us. (I'm still using
a 133
>> >>>Pentium with a video card which is just passable, remember.)
>> >>>
>> >>>Although good improvements have been made to Keynote and it is
now
>> >>>relatively stable for many, it seems to depend upon one's
computer and
>> >>>configuration just how stable it is. It is still prone to cut
out on our
>> >>>laptop when a lot of processing has to be done and, before I get
shot
>> down
>> >>>in flames again for this message, let me add that of course it
may be due
>> >>>to laptop settings that I personally have been unable to resolve
and not
>> >>>the direct fault of the Keynote synth itself.
>> >>>
>> >>>However, whatever the reason, for me the software synths are
still not as
>> >>>sbable as I would like to see them. Well, once HJ has done
something
>> with
>> >>>the CTRL-ALT-DEL combination I shall probably feel a little
better - more
>> >>>in control of the crashes - but that's it for now.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>Carol Pearson
>> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>At 15:30 22/01/99 -0500, bill cameron wrote:
>> >>>>carol as a user of 2 software synths, keynote and dec talk
access 32, i
>> >can
>> >>>>tell you that if i was buying a hardward synth, it would be
external and
>> >>>cheap,
>> >>>>like the spirit from artic that cost 300 dollars but it
emulates an
>> accent
>> >>> so
>> >>>>it shall work down the road in n t.
>> >>>>software speech provides great quality voice while the cheaper
synth
>> >>>provides
>> >>>>access in all enviroments.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>if i had to buy internal i would also combine double talk with
access
>> 32.
>> >>>>the only reason for buying internal is if i did not have a irq
available
>> >>>in the
>> >>>>system.
>> >>>>reason for combineing access 32 with double talk is that access
32
>> shall
>> >>>work
>> >>>>in windows n t as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>now if i where poor, i would go software only and with out a
doubt the
>> >>>synth i
>> >>>>bought would be the keynote software synth, also called
multmedia.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>by the way it is extremely stable in every respect, and for
the last
>> >>>month it
>> >>>>is all i am using.
>> >>>>reason being i pulled my hardware synth out of old system to
install in
>> new
>> >>>>system.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>no problems, since they released their second version or
upgrade, really
>> >was
>> >>>>bug patches about 6 months back.
>> >>>>also if the user uses a dos screen reader that supports the
keynote soft
>> >>>synth
>> >>>>then dos box access is still possible.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>so keynote is the best software synth that i have used in the
win 9 x
>> >>>>enviroment, of course their are many i have not used
>> >>>>
>> >>>>one other thing, if keynote does run into a problem its a good
thang jfw
>> >>>>provides a back up software synth.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>the only down side to the keynote is that it does not work in
win n t.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>bill
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>At 01:09 PM 1/22/99 +0000, you wrote:
>> >>>>>Hi there,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Well, I don't like the idea of internal software synths only.
I think
>> >>>>>there's rather more work to be done before I'd be entirely
happy
>> >without my
>> >>>>>Dectalk Express. Even the best of the software synths are not
so
>> stable
>> >>>>>(certainly with 95) and I still like nipping to DOS now and
again. I
>> >guess
>> >>>>>if I move to NT that won't be an option anyway.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I guess what I really want to say is that I still feel we
should be
>> >>>>>encouraging HJ and makers of synthersizers to continue to make
>> >improvements
>> >>>>>here as the software synths are just not totally up to it yet.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>--
>> >>>>>Carol Pearson
>> >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>At 11:00 22/01/99 +1100, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> >>>>>>Hi,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I will answer your two questions in the quoted message below.
My
>> >>>>>>comments are preceded by SM:.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> "Tim Culhane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 21/January/1999
10:40pm >>>
>> >>>>>>What is the reason for this?
>> >>>>>>SM: If you mean why internal synths will have a short life
spand in
>> >>>>>>computerrs, the answer is very simple. NT at this point of
time does
>> >>>>>>not have any ssill drivers. Until Arkenstone brings out NT
drivers,
>> >>>>>>you wil not get your Internal synths to work. Yes, you could
sya that
>> >>>>>>JFW or any other screen reader should develop their own
drivers. But
>> >>>>>>they will not do so because new computers will not have any
ISA slots
>> >>>>>>in them. ISA slots are being phased out. Also software
synthesizers
>> >>>>>>are becoming more common and cost less. Using Australian
prices, the
>> >>>>>>cost of a Dectalk PC or Express is around the $1500 and the
Dectalk
>> >>>>>>Access 32 is about $400 and if you buy a cheap sound card,
you are
>> >>>>>>looking about $100. A total of $500, which means I save
$1000. In
>> >>>>>>other words, the main stream market is seeing the advantages
of
>> >>>>>>software speech and this will completely change the way that
synths
>> >>>>>>are sold.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Will there be an alternative?
>> >>>>>>SM: Software synths are the replacement.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Regards
>> >>>>>>Sean.
>> >>>>>>-
>> >>>>>>Visit the jfw ml web page:
http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>-
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>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-
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>> >>>>
>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >>
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