Bill,
I've recently observed this behavior with JFW 3.2.031, that is, saying
"Tab" as the only identification that one has moved to a property sheet.
Perhaps it does this in some situations and not others. Since one
often presses the Tab key to get to a new control, I at first thought
JFW was not identifying the control until I realized that the first
"tab" was the key label" and the second "tab" was the identification of
the control.
Regards,
Jamal
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, bill cameron wrote:
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:30:22 -0500
> From: bill cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: More enhancements I'd like in JFW verbosity
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> jamal your are wrong, jfw always has identified the properties sheets.
> long before most screen readers did.
> including win eyes, listen and you will here it say
>
> page
>
> the word page lets the user know what is going on.
> that tells them it is a multi page dialogue box.
> in fact this has been jfw since the very first 95 release.
>
> bill cameron
>
>
>
> At 09:48 AM 3/23/99 +0500, you wrote:
> >I like the way Window-Eyes says "default button" when reading a
> >dialogue and coming across the default button in it. Both
> >Window-Eyes and JFW also have a hot key to specifically identify
> >the default button on request, but I do like this automatic
> >identification in addition.
> >
> >I think Window-Eyes reads the start menu in a more logical
> >manner. It says the title of a submenu before identifying the
> >currently highlighted option, rather than the reverse as JFW
> >does. For example, if I press S for the settings menu, JFW will
> >say "control Panel" then "Settings" rather than identifying the
> >more general, menu title before the more specific, menu selection
> >-- a more intuitive reading order.
> >
> >Window-Eyes says "top" and "bottom" items in a list box before
> >reading those items. JFW, on the other hand, does not say
> >anything when one tries to move past the top or bottom item. If
> >one then presses down or up arrow to go in the reverse direction,
> >the second to the top or bottom item is said, respectively,
> >risking the possibility that one misses the topmost or bottommost
> >item.
> >
> >I think JFW should say "tab control" or "property sheet" to identify
> >such a control. Right now it just says "tab," which is the same thing
> >said by default when one presses the tab key, allowing one to
> >easily miss the identification of this control.
> >
> >I hope JFW verbosity settings are enhanced in the 3.3 release to
> >meet the high standards set by Window-Eyes. By the way, I also
> >encourage the Window-Eyes developers to improve their product to
> >meet other usability standards set by JFW.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jamal
> >
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